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My Atheist Friends, Help Me Understand

Started this discussion. Last reply by Unseen Jun 23, 2012. 1095 Replies

I read posts here that call different things, "harmful to humanity."  Others call something, "good" or "bad" or "evil."A very simple question, who gets to decide the definition of  "harmful to…Continue

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Nov 17, 2012
Unseen replied to Wretched Saint's discussion 'My Atheist Friends, Help Me Understand'
"If you think so, as I said, the rainbow is not out there where it appears to be because it's an epiphenomenon."
Jun 23, 2012
Karen Lollis replied to Wretched Saint's discussion 'My Atheist Friends, Help Me Understand'
"OK - but you defined epiphenomenon has something with edges, something you can touch. You didn't define it in terms of effects. And in fact, if you were to stare at a rainbow, then look at a white blank page (cue Mumford and Sons), you might…"
Jun 23, 2012
Tom Sarbeck replied to Wretched Saint's discussion 'My Atheist Friends, Help Me Understand'
"Despite this and the many other insights here, does anyone think Wretched Saint will ever understand? BTW, color is an optical illusion and a mental conclusion. The mind is so easily tricked. "
Jun 22, 2012
Unseen replied to Wretched Saint's discussion 'My Atheist Friends, Help Me Understand'
"Take an object that's orange in color. Did it ever occur to you that the reason it appears orange is that that is the part of spectrum the object rejects by letting it bounce off? In other words, the orange object is, in fact, all the rest of…"
Jun 21, 2012
Dogly replied to Wretched Saint's discussion 'My Atheist Friends, Help Me Understand'
"I pity all the people with the various '...nopias' who can't see rainbows.  I've seen two at once in Puerto Rico.  I love to see them. "
Jun 21, 2012
Dogly replied to Wretched Saint's discussion 'My Atheist Friends, Help Me Understand'
"This is why I like THINK ATHEIST!  I like the think part more than the atheist part.  The people I talk to in Tampa accept rumor, gossip, speculation, prejudice, and faith, as equivalent to fact.  When I'm told something as…"
Jun 21, 2012
Pope Beanie replied to Wretched Saint's discussion 'My Atheist Friends, Help Me Understand'
"Speaking of electromagnetic spectrums, I believe rainbowburn would only appear on the back of an observer. I mean, speaking of photo-physics trivia."
Jun 21, 2012
Pope Beanie replied to Wretched Saint's discussion 'My Atheist Friends, Help Me Understand'
"I had a teacher tell us that the perception of color is an illusion. Like a mirage, we can all see it and describe (usually) the same thing, but since it's not a material object, it's an illusion. Perhaps if the definition of…"
Jun 21, 2012
Unseen replied to Wretched Saint's discussion 'My Atheist Friends, Help Me Understand'
"@Blaine Leavitt Thank you for that. As usual we always have exceptions, people that have Tritanopia, Protanopia and Deuteranopia. People who are completely color blind would see the rainbow in shades of gray – and perhaps they would see…"
Jun 20, 2012
onecae replied to Wretched Saint's discussion 'My Atheist Friends, Help Me Understand'
"Light, Prisms, and the Rainbow Connection http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/optics/activities/students/prisms.html "Did you know that the light from the sun or from white electric lights is made up of all the colors that can be seen by the human eye?…"
Jun 20, 2012
Unseen replied to Wretched Saint's discussion 'My Atheist Friends, Help Me Understand'
"I never said illusions are unreal. The reason you can't find a pot of gold (or anything else) is that as you try to approach the rainbow, you'll find that you aren't getting closer to it in the same way you'd be getting closer to…"
Jun 20, 2012
Unseen replied to Wretched Saint's discussion 'My Atheist Friends, Help Me Understand'
"It is real. It's an illusion. It's just not real in the same way as light is. "Everything is real once properly categorized.""
Jun 20, 2012
Unseen replied to Wretched Saint's discussion 'My Atheist Friends, Help Me Understand'
"No, the fact that I can get sunburn makes it a phenomenon, not an epiphenomenon. When you can get a rainbowburn, let me know."
Jun 20, 2012
Arcus replied to Wretched Saint's discussion 'My Atheist Friends, Help Me Understand'
"@Blaine: I've been following the discussion myself. Can't wait to take a picture of a rainbow, post it on Facebook with the caption "Rainbows don't exist, they are an illusion", and see how many end up responding, hopefully…"
Jun 20, 2012
John Major replied to Wretched Saint's discussion 'My Atheist Friends, Help Me Understand'
"Lol you're kidding right? Maybe I joined the rainbow debate a little late. Photons are real. Rainbows are what we call a particular arrangement of photons. So rainbows are real. The illusion is the pot of gold."
Jun 20, 2012

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