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Bitcoin, Threat or Menace?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Unseen yesterday. 2 Replies

Is Bitcoin the currency of the future, free of government control/interference, or is it actually an investment that fluctuates far more in value than the Dollar, Pound, or Euro ever does? Is it…Continue

Tags: banking, currency, Bitcoin

Penn and Teller call BS on much of the environmental movement

Started this discussion. Last reply by Davis Goodman 47 minutes ago. 37 Replies

Is the movement pro-environment or anti-corporation? How smart are environmentalists? Would they even sign a petition to ban dihydrogen monoxide? (BTW, Penn and Teller are well-known atheists and…Continue

Tags: bullshit, Greenpeace, change, climate, environmentalism

Do we still believe in a robust freedom of speech?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Erock68la yesterday. 28 Replies

(CNN) — America used to be a place where we said, "Give me liberty or give me death." We live by a credo that "freedom isn't free," and that our Constitution is worth dying for. How inspirational it…Continue

Tags: hate, racism, speech, of, Amendment

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Unseen replied to Alex Decesare's discussion 'Is Christianity a cult'
"No and yes. I went to an Episcopal church when I was young and if it was a cult, it was a pretty weak one. No pressure not to lose the faith. No shunning of people who left. No blindly following a cult leader. (The idea of the Archbishop of…"
38 seconds ago
Unseen replied to Unseen's discussion 'CNN Special Report on Atheism/Atheists'
"Words mean something.  If you don't believe something, why say something."
5 minutes ago
Davis Goodman replied to Unseen's discussion 'Penn and Teller call BS on much of the environmental movement'
"It's odd that someone who has researched enviromental problems question the narrative of the "alarming consequences of the future" when people today suffer extreme consequences due to enviromental damage and climate change."
47 minutes ago
SteveInCO replied to Unseen's discussion 'Penn and Teller call BS on much of the environmental movement'
"Au contraire.  Since he won't claim climate change is the apcalypse, he's a denier. (/sarc)"
1 hour ago
Noel replied to Unseen's discussion 'CNN Special Report on Atheism/Atheists'
"LOL so it's semantics?  I rather just sit at home and plant my geraniums, water my lawn, sit in my yard and read the paper over a nice hot cup of Cafe Bustelo. Not looking to convert anyone. Not into the whole them versus us whole militant…"
2 hours ago
Unseen replied to Unseen's discussion 'Penn and Teller call BS on much of the environmental movement'
"He's not a climate change denier or even skeptic. He does maintain that claims about the speed of climate change or the results of climate change are often exaggerated or just plain wrong. If you try to discuss him with climate advocates, you…"
2 hours ago
Unseen replied to Unseen's discussion 'CNN Special Report on Atheism/Atheists'
"There isn't a dime's worth of difference between rejecting the notion of God and disbelieving it. It's absurd to take the position that God doesn't exist or that there's no evidence for God while maintaining that you…"
2 hours ago
SteveInCO replied to Unseen's discussion 'Penn and Teller call BS on much of the environmental movement'
"From what little I've read of it so far, he has the same goals as what we broadly call the "environmental movement" but has this odd quirk of insisting that proposed solutions actually be examined to determine if they will, in fact,…"
2 hours ago
Davis Goodman replied to Unseen's discussion 'CNN Special Report on Atheism/Atheists'
"Dawkins has been called out by other atheists for using non-belief instead of the rejection of. One could only say that those atheists who claim with absolute certainty that god doesn't exist have a belief. The rest (most atheists and virtual…"
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SteveInCO replied to Unseen's discussion 'CNN Special Report on Atheism/Atheists'
"I think atheist/agnostic animus against the word "belief" is largely misguided.  It simply means what one holds to be true, and "to believe" as a verb doesn't address the reason for one's belief.  It could be…"
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Unseen replied to Alex Decesare's discussion 'should I worry about my parents kicking me out because of my atheism'
"If you believe your rights are being violated, there's always the local ACLU."
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Unseen replied to Unseen's discussion 'Penn and Teller call BS on much of the environmental movement'
"It should be http://www.lomborg.com/"
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SteveInCO replied to Unseen's discussion 'Penn and Teller call BS on much of the environmental movement'
"Link broken."
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Unseen replied to Unseen's discussion 'Penn and Teller call BS on much of the environmental movement'
"You're not familiar with him, are you?  On climate change: "We have to put the omni-present narrative that our climate is changing for the worse in perspective. While some indicators are indeed getting worse, the data shows that…"
19 hours ago
Noel replied to Unseen's discussion 'Penn and Teller call BS on much of the environmental movement'
"Here is Moore again in a blurb from a recent spanish TV interview where he said that drinking Monsanto's Roundup weed killer would not kill you: From Huffingtonpost.com: "Roundup is a highly effective weed-killer that can be used during…"
19 hours ago
Ed replied to Unseen's discussion 'Penn and Teller call BS on much of the environmental movement'
""One of the main issues brought up by Strom Lomborg, the Swedish economist, is that ecologists make their arguments so central to everything that they seem to forget that there are other worldwide problems also needing attention (world health,…"
20 hours ago

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Scientists are now admitting that nuclear power is greener than other alternatives

Posted on January 8, 2015 at 12:29pm 36 Comments

The full read from which the following quote is taken is here.

Nuclear power is one of the least damaging sources of energy for the environment, and the green movement must accept its expansion if the world is to…


A great number of paradoxes, starting with Scroedinger's cat

Posted on April 18, 2014 at 8:00pm 1 Comment

I'm sorry, but I had to stop listening to this bit at about the fourth paradox due to being out of breath from laughing. How long can you last?

Famous last words. No...really!

Posted on February 6, 2014 at 6:30pm 2 Comments

I found a website where Texas lists every capital execution from 1982 on. One of the more interesting things about it is that it includes any last statements the prisoners made. Interesting reading. Lots of "foxhole converts" among them, I note.

OBAMACARE Is Better Than You Think

Posted on September 24, 2013 at 11:40am 1 Comment

In just one week the main part of Obamacare will begin to kick in. This is the state level exchanges that will allow the uninsured to be covered. Beginning on October 1, people will be able to sign up to get insurance in their state regardless of their health.

Most people signing up on the exchanges will qualify for subsidies based on their income and family size. This means that the cost of insurance will be less than the advertised price.

This is good…


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At 3:26pm on December 14, 2014, Virgil said…

You and I got off to a bad start and I almost gave up on AT cuz of it.  I'm glad I didn't.  Amazing how much you and I agree on besides views on how jobs are created, the meaning of wealth and what produces it. All of that I believe about those things are from my personal experience in the past 5 years since becoming a civilian. I believe in them more today than ever before but all that is teeny minor crap compared to my core convictions.  The main reason I argued with you about that was the wrong reason to to argue.  I was offended on a personal level by things you said and I gave into that & put my anger ahead of reason. 

Interrogation.  Please point out any errors in you see in my reasoning.... (why ask, you'll do it even if I don't ask hahahaha!)

my last tour 2009 in Afgh I was a E4, a corporal, just one tiny small guy the big picture. When I heard this report was coming out I thought "oh shit!  This is going to get nasty!"  But wait... "nasty" is a relative term. As a war vet, my idea of nasty in regards to what could have been in that report  is waaaaaaaaay different from Joe Civilian's definition of nasty.  In fact my definition of nasty info on EIT would be impossible for him to wrap his head around and not break out in a chicken little dance. 

There's no damned way Feinstein & the others with that report know less about EIT than I do unless the CIA and armed forces have been totally lying to them.  That's just not possible. 

I've read all I can find for details, watched TV for the hot talking points and I have come to the conclusion that whole report just about has to be a psyop to cover ALLLLLLLLL the shit guys like me know and all the shit guys like me don't know.  For me there hasn't been ONE DETAIL in that report that was newsy or nasty.  I really feel what's going on is a well planned magician's trick that starts  off with him saying, "watch me cut off my right hand" to distract everyone IN THE WORLD while they sneak a 60 ton plaid elephant across the stage. 

This isn't a conspiracy theory about some secret plot from the Obama white house.  This is a theory about possibly pulling off a great Intel move to benefit the very people and programs that it's supposed to be making the focus of world wide outrage. 

But wait.  There's more.

There were things in that report that were totally ridiculous and almost funny when you thin about them.  ONLY  dummasses would fall for some of the shit AND the media and none of the "experts" have even tried to point the silly shit out. 

Think. The report says next to no vital intel has been obtained through EIT.  It says most of the intel obtained is lies told under torture.  I don't recall ONE time in my whole 22 months in Afgh when we were told, "get your guns and let's go find some bad guys to shoot." Every time we did anything se went out to specific places looking at specific times, to look for specific people, specific things and act like we were just dumb gyrines who didn't know what we were looking for. One time we did a four hour search on a small 6 house village before "noticing" the exact item we'd been shown satellite images of sitting right in our way the whole time.   Sooooo where did that intel come from?  The pentagon must be using psychics and have consult fortune tellers.  ...........  That's just one example.  One time we were rushed out to set up a  fake road check, told what car to look for, who would be in it and make sure its 4 tires were blown out 1 km before the road block so the occupants would have to get out and walk after all traffic on the road was stopped to prevent them from hitching rides.  When we go the guys back to base there were interesting guys there. After a staged accidental explosion the 3

At 9:06pm on September 19, 2014, Davis Goodman said…

Can't believe we weren't official friends here all this time!!!!

At 3:34am on September 2, 2014, Demetrius Alcala said…

You stole CBS

At 7:51am on August 10, 2014, Brandon Bissell said…

Yeah thanks. I was hoping to talk to you about something so I'll send a message soon.

At 10:30pm on March 25, 2014, Justin said…

ah yes Im new to it, thank u

At 2:58am on March 25, 2014, EMil Wentzel said…

Thanks :)

I'm still feeling my way around, glad to see so many wonderful positive and active voices here :)

At 11:56am on February 7, 2014, Reg The Fronkey Farmer said…

Thanks for the add Unseen. We took long enough lol...

At 2:46pm on August 30, 2013, Beth said…

Nice to meet you too!

At 3:45pm on May 22, 2013, Asura said…

Yeah i'am new here, seems like an amazing place :D

Thank you!

At 4:25am on March 3, 2013, Gregg R Thomas said…

You Tyrant You.  LOL

Oh well at least we now have Richard Bohn, I wonder how long he will last. :D


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