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Is public education the problem rather than the solution? How about home schooling?

Started this discussion. Last reply by SteveInCO on Saturday. 4 Replies

From the preface of Paul Goodman's classic sociological work, Compulsory Miseducation…Continue

Should we stop pursuing scientific investitations while we still can?

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Any major discovery almost instantly gets turned into a whole new and more deadly generation of weapons. Aren't weapons scary enough as it is?Continue

Trump or Cruz? Cruz or Trump?

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Imagine you're a Republican atheist and you have to choose between The Donald or Ted Cruz.Now, were it me, I'd have to hold my nose and throw up in my throat as I voted for Trump.I don't think…Continue

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Simon Mathews replied to Unseen's discussion 'Sam Harris on the Illusion of Free Will'
""it's true that whatever you, me, Daniel Dennett and Davis Goodman do is an inevitable consequence of antecedent events and processes over which no one has any control whatsoever." You're the one intrinsically linking freedom…"
2 hours ago
Unseen commented on Gary Bergeron's blog post 'Saying Goodbye'
"Belle, you revealed that your adopted mom is mentally ill. I know she mistreated you and I don't know her positives, but consider that given her condition she wasn't able to do other than she did. In other words, it wasn't personal,…"
7 hours ago
Unseen replied to proudAthiest's discussion 'personal question'
"You can be rude without intentionally being so.  "I know what you really mean even though you don't" whether stated explicitly and intentionally or obliquely and unintentionally is rude."
18 hours ago
Unseen replied to proudAthiest's discussion 'personal question'
"No, not "It really is," unless you mean "It really is what I think." Telling people what they really think and really mean isn't just psychologizing...it's rude."
19 hours ago
Unseen replied to proudAthiest's discussion 'personal question'
"I suppose an atheist who's going through a very trying period might say "I'm in hell right now" and mean it in a non-religious sense."
21 hours ago
Unseen replied to proudAthiest's discussion 'personal question'
"Where's the weakness there? Wanting to participate isn't a "need.""
Unseen replied to proudAthiest's discussion 'personal question'
"Cruelty in the New Tesstament of the Christian Bible"
Unseen replied to Unseen's discussion 'Sam Harris on the Illusion of Free Will'
"How do you distinguish freedom from free will. It seems to me that if everything you do is inevitable under deterministic physical law, "freedom" is rather moot. You have choices of course, but which choice you choose isn't really…"
Jake LaFort replied to Unseen's discussion 'Sam Harris on the Illusion of Free Will'
"oh how i hate to agree with Unseen..but his asseverations are mostly sensible in this area"
Unseen replied to proudAthiest's discussion 'personal question'
"In what way can a "need to belong" be a strength? It's what's behind the mob mentality and the weakness people have to just go along with what others are doing in order not to be ridiculed or shunned."
Unseen replied to proudAthiest's discussion 'personal question'
"Well, I've spent my life trying NOT to belong to groups and NOT seeking approval and relishing being the odd person out  I just don't understand the need to belong. I guess I view it as an intellectual or emotional weakness."
Unseen replied to proudAthiest's discussion 'personal question'
"It is a JW image depicting what awaits the faithful. BORING! "
SteveInCO replied to Unseen's discussion 'Is public education the problem rather than the solution? How about home schooling?'
"On the other hand...if we DIDN'T have public schools, we wouldn't have to fight the damn creationists and morning prayer jackwagons over them.  They could pray their pea brains out in school and you could send your kid to a school…"
Pope Beanie replied to Unseen's discussion 'Sam Harris on the Illusion of Free Will'
"Sorta. :)"
Pope Beanie replied to Unseen's discussion 'Sam Harris on the Illusion of Free Will'
"I'm ready to move onto discussion of freedom as separate to free will, but related to it in terms of human abilities to make decisions without requiring any outsider to automatically pass judgement on the person exercising freedom. I agree with…"
Unseen replied to Unseen's discussion 'Sam Harris on the Illusion of Free Will'
"I can't put myself back on the moment to understand what I meant by "What is the theory of nothing?" because I've watched several Lawrence Krauss lectures on the matter and pretty much know what his views are.  I'm not…"

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MA in Philosophy. I call myself an atheistic agnostic. In other words, I'm atheist until someone proves I'm wrong.
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Scientists are now admitting that nuclear power is greener than other alternatives

Posted on January 8, 2015 at 12:29pm 36 Comments

The full read from which the following quote is taken is here.

Nuclear power is one of the least damaging sources of energy for the environment, and the green movement must accept its expansion if the world is to…


A great number of paradoxes, starting with Scroedinger's cat

Posted on April 18, 2014 at 8:00pm 1 Comment

I'm sorry, but I had to stop listening to this bit at about the fourth paradox due to being out of breath from laughing. How long can you last?

Famous last words. No...really!

Posted on February 6, 2014 at 6:30pm 1 Comment

I found a website where Texas lists every capital execution from 1982 on. One of the more interesting things about it is that it includes any last statements the prisoners made. Interesting reading. Lots of "foxhole converts" among them, I note.

OBAMACARE Is Better Than You Think

Posted on September 24, 2013 at 11:40am 1 Comment

In just one week the main part of Obamacare will begin to kick in. This is the state level exchanges that will allow the uninsured to be covered. Beginning on October 1, people will be able to sign up to get insurance in their state regardless of their health.

Most people signing up on the exchanges will qualify for subsidies based on their income and family size. This means that the cost of insurance will be less than the advertised price.

This is good…


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At 9:58pm on April 17, 2016, N.Y.K. said…
Max Headroom's interview on David Letterman is hilarious, and available on YouTube.

I suggest buying the DVD if you haven't. Unfortunately Frewer isn't involved in any of the documentary features in the set, but there is plenty of that material available online. The DVD set contains the show from the 1987-88 American run, omitted is the Talking Headroom show and the 20 Minutes Into The Future (which is also available in its entirety on YouTube).
At 10:56pm on April 16, 2016, N.Y.K. said…
So we don't always get along. However, I had no idea who Max Headroom was but your photo reminded me of a person I used to be acquainted with, and I searched it on Google and discovered him. I have now purchased the DVD set and watched everything available on YouTube, and while it was not your intention, you have created a fan of that show simply by choosing an avatar. Whatever it's worth, I appreciate it. Hopefully your ribs are healing well.
At 3:22am on April 3, 2016, JadeBlackOlive said…

Glad to hear that!

At 1:53am on April 3, 2016, JadeBlackOlive said…

How are you feeling, Unseen?

At 4:38am on December 26, 2015, Royce Earnest Rasmussen said…

Thank you!

At 3:26pm on December 14, 2014, Virgil said…

You and I got off to a bad start and I almost gave up on AT cuz of it.  I'm glad I didn't.  Amazing how much you and I agree on besides views on how jobs are created, the meaning of wealth and what produces it. All of that I believe about those things are from my personal experience in the past 5 years since becoming a civilian. I believe in them more today than ever before but all that is teeny minor crap compared to my core convictions.  The main reason I argued with you about that was the wrong reason to to argue.  I was offended on a personal level by things you said and I gave into that & put my anger ahead of reason. 

Interrogation.  Please point out any errors in you see in my reasoning.... (why ask, you'll do it even if I don't ask hahahaha!)

my last tour 2009 in Afgh I was a E4, a corporal, just one tiny small guy the big picture. When I heard this report was coming out I thought "oh shit!  This is going to get nasty!"  But wait... "nasty" is a relative term. As a war vet, my idea of nasty in regards to what could have been in that report  is waaaaaaaaay different from Joe Civilian's definition of nasty.  In fact my definition of nasty info on EIT would be impossible for him to wrap his head around and not break out in a chicken little dance. 

There's no damned way Feinstein & the others with that report know less about EIT than I do unless the CIA and armed forces have been totally lying to them.  That's just not possible. 

I've read all I can find for details, watched TV for the hot talking points and I have come to the conclusion that whole report just about has to be a psyop to cover ALLLLLLLLL the shit guys like me know and all the shit guys like me don't know.  For me there hasn't been ONE DETAIL in that report that was newsy or nasty.  I really feel what's going on is a well planned magician's trick that starts  off with him saying, "watch me cut off my right hand" to distract everyone IN THE WORLD while they sneak a 60 ton plaid elephant across the stage. 

This isn't a conspiracy theory about some secret plot from the Obama white house.  This is a theory about possibly pulling off a great Intel move to benefit the very people and programs that it's supposed to be making the focus of world wide outrage. 

But wait.  There's more.

There were things in that report that were totally ridiculous and almost funny when you thin about them.  ONLY  dummasses would fall for some of the shit AND the media and none of the "experts" have even tried to point the silly shit out. 

Think. The report says next to no vital intel has been obtained through EIT.  It says most of the intel obtained is lies told under torture.  I don't recall ONE time in my whole 22 months in Afgh when we were told, "get your guns and let's go find some bad guys to shoot." Every time we did anything se went out to specific places looking at specific times, to look for specific people, specific things and act like we were just dumb gyrines who didn't know what we were looking for. One time we did a four hour search on a small 6 house village before "noticing" the exact item we'd been shown satellite images of sitting right in our way the whole time.   Sooooo where did that intel come from?  The pentagon must be using psychics and have consult fortune tellers.  ...........  That's just one example.  One time we were rushed out to set up a  fake road check, told what car to look for, who would be in it and make sure its 4 tires were blown out 1 km before the road block so the occupants would have to get out and walk after all traffic on the road was stopped to prevent them from hitching rides.  When we go the guys back to base there were interesting guys there. After a staged accidental explosion the 3

At 9:06pm on September 19, 2014, Davis Goodman said…

Can't believe we weren't official friends here all this time!!!!

At 3:34am on September 2, 2014, Demetrius Alcala said…

You stole CBS

At 7:51am on August 10, 2014, Brandon Bissell said…

Yeah thanks. I was hoping to talk to you about something so I'll send a message soon.

At 10:30pm on March 25, 2014, Justin said…

ah yes Im new to it, thank u


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