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Bitcoin, Threat or Menace?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Unseen 10 hours ago. 2 Replies

Is Bitcoin the currency of the future, free of government control/interference, or is it actually an investment that fluctuates far more in value than the Dollar, Pound, or Euro ever does? Is it…Continue

Tags: banking, currency, Bitcoin

Penn and Teller call BS on much of the environmental movement

Started this discussion. Last reply by _Robert_ 1 hour ago. 18 Replies

Is the movement pro-environment or anti-corporation? How smart are environmentalists? Would they even sign a petition to ban dihydrogen monoxide? (BTW, Penn and Teller are well-known atheists and…Continue

Tags: bullshit, Greenpeace, change, climate, environmentalism

Do we still believe in a robust freedom of speech?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Erock68la 6 hours ago. 28 Replies

(CNN) — America used to be a place where we said, "Give me liberty or give me death." We live by a credo that "freedom isn't free," and that our Constitution is worth dying for. How inspirational it…Continue

Tags: hate, racism, speech, of, Amendment

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_Robert_ replied to Unseen's discussion 'Penn and Teller call BS on much of the environmental movement'
"The better description would be how certain agents ingested from the environment, present in the dihydrogen monoxide you consume are known to affect normal cellular reproduction resulting in cancerous tumors. So, yes ironically you are…"
1 hour ago
SteveInCO replied to Unseen's discussion 'Penn and Teller call BS on much of the environmental movement'
"You forgot to mention the bit about it being found in every cancerous tumor."
4 hours ago
Davis Goodman replied to Unseen's discussion 'Penn and Teller call BS on much of the environmental movement'
"Indeed. In reality they exagerate some claims but in reality, large companies are responsible for not only a lot of polution but also the worst kind. They often in badly regulated Anglo-Saxon countries and the third world get away with some very…"
5 hours ago
Gary Clouse replied to Unseen's discussion 'Penn and Teller call BS on much of the environmental movement'
" I used to buy irradiated dinners for my lunches. The major benefit to them was they did not require refrigeration. That saved a LOT of energy."
6 hours ago
Unseen replied to Unseen's discussion 'Penn and Teller call BS on much of the environmental movement'
"Penn Jillette is not a climate change denier, as I understand it. He's more like Bjorn Lomborg, the Swedish economist who reminds us of the other problems we'd have to put on hold in order to effect the changes that would be required to…"
6 hours ago
Gary Clouse replied to Unseen's discussion 'Penn and Teller call BS on much of the environmental movement'
"There was another short-lved environmental catastrophe bank in the late sixties warning that deforestation would lead to a shortage of oxygen in the atmosphere,"
6 hours ago
Erock68la replied to Unseen's discussion 'Do we still believe in a robust freedom of speech?'
"I think mental instability is a prerequisite for terrorists and for haters who take action."
6 hours ago
Gary Clouse replied to Unseen's discussion 'Penn and Teller call BS on much of the environmental movement'
"In addition to being an atheist and skeptic, Penn Gillette is also a very outspoken Libertarian. Often, it seems his Libertarian ideology overrides his skepticism. He is a climate change denier,  BTW,  a long time ago, I played the…"
6 hours ago
Gary Clouse replied to Unseen's discussion 'Do we still believe in a robust freedom of speech?'
"  Unfortunately, there are many people for whom hateful rhetoric moves them to take action against those they hate. Anders Brevik is an example of a mass murder inspired by hate speech."
7 hours ago
Unseen replied to Unseen's discussion 'Do we still believe in a robust freedom of speech?'
"They were both mentally unstable? In that case they weren't terrorists or haters. They were crazy people acting out."
7 hours ago
Gary Clouse replied to Unseen's discussion 'Do we still believe in a robust freedom of speech?'
"Back in 2002,  two incidents less than two month apart occurred on American soil. In the first incident, a man approached the airport ticket counter of a middle eastern based airline and opened fire on airline customers and employees, killing…"
7 hours ago
Unseen replied to Unseen's discussion 'Penn and Teller call BS on much of the environmental movement'
"Much of what you say is true, but I suspect a large number of people on both sides of any issue aren't really terribly deep into it and merely parrot views (when they can even do that) on issues they favor based more on sentiment than…"
8 hours ago
Davis Goodman replied to Unseen's discussion 'Penn and Teller call BS on much of the environmental movement'
"If you go around and interview people who cannot quickly and properly answer a question worded in a specific way, especially interviewing people you sense cannot answer well (in the video I attach here they are first year students), ignore the good…"
8 hours ago
Unseen replied to Unseen's discussion 'Bitcoin, Threat or Menace?'
" Miners get a reward for being the first in the world to correctly guess. Part of that guess work involves processing the transactions from the previous 10 minutes. i'm still learning about it. WHAT are they guessing?"
10 hours ago
matt.clerke replied to Unseen's discussion 'Bitcoin, Threat or Menace?'
"You monster! using click-bait to gather people to your discussion! "
12 hours ago
Unseen replied to Unseen's discussion 'Penn and Teller call BS on much of the environmental movement'
"And no one's asking you to become a capitalist."
13 hours ago

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MA in Philosophy. I call myself an atheistic agnostic. In other words, I'm atheist until someone proves I'm wrong.
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Strangely, you don't include the most obvious answer: God doesn't appear to exist, even as a possibility.
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Scientists are now admitting that nuclear power is greener than other alternatives

Posted on January 8, 2015 at 12:29pm 36 Comments

The full read from which the following quote is taken is here.

Nuclear power is one of the least damaging sources of energy for the environment, and the green movement must accept its expansion if the world is to…

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A great number of paradoxes, starting with Scroedinger's cat

Posted on April 18, 2014 at 8:00pm 1 Comment

I'm sorry, but I had to stop listening to this bit at about the fourth paradox due to being out of breath from laughing. How long can you last?

Famous last words. No...really!

Posted on February 6, 2014 at 6:30pm 2 Comments

I found a website where Texas lists every capital execution from 1982 on. One of the more interesting things about it is that it includes any last statements the prisoners made. Interesting reading. Lots of "foxhole converts" among them, I note.

OBAMACARE Is Better Than You Think

Posted on September 24, 2013 at 11:40am 1 Comment

In just one week the main part of Obamacare will begin to kick in. This is the state level exchanges that will allow the uninsured to be covered. Beginning on October 1, people will be able to sign up to get insurance in their state regardless of their health.

Most people signing up on the exchanges will qualify for subsidies based on their income and family size. This means that the cost of insurance will be less than the advertised price.

This is good…

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At 3:26pm on December 14, 2014, Virgil said…

You and I got off to a bad start and I almost gave up on AT cuz of it.  I'm glad I didn't.  Amazing how much you and I agree on besides views on how jobs are created, the meaning of wealth and what produces it. All of that I believe about those things are from my personal experience in the past 5 years since becoming a civilian. I believe in them more today than ever before but all that is teeny minor crap compared to my core convictions.  The main reason I argued with you about that was the wrong reason to to argue.  I was offended on a personal level by things you said and I gave into that & put my anger ahead of reason. 

Interrogation.  Please point out any errors in you see in my reasoning.... (why ask, you'll do it even if I don't ask hahahaha!)

my last tour 2009 in Afgh I was a E4, a corporal, just one tiny small guy the big picture. When I heard this report was coming out I thought "oh shit!  This is going to get nasty!"  But wait... "nasty" is a relative term. As a war vet, my idea of nasty in regards to what could have been in that report  is waaaaaaaaay different from Joe Civilian's definition of nasty.  In fact my definition of nasty info on EIT would be impossible for him to wrap his head around and not break out in a chicken little dance. 

There's no damned way Feinstein & the others with that report know less about EIT than I do unless the CIA and armed forces have been totally lying to them.  That's just not possible. 

I've read all I can find for details, watched TV for the hot talking points and I have come to the conclusion that whole report just about has to be a psyop to cover ALLLLLLLLL the shit guys like me know and all the shit guys like me don't know.  For me there hasn't been ONE DETAIL in that report that was newsy or nasty.  I really feel what's going on is a well planned magician's trick that starts  off with him saying, "watch me cut off my right hand" to distract everyone IN THE WORLD while they sneak a 60 ton plaid elephant across the stage. 

This isn't a conspiracy theory about some secret plot from the Obama white house.  This is a theory about possibly pulling off a great Intel move to benefit the very people and programs that it's supposed to be making the focus of world wide outrage. 

But wait.  There's more.

There were things in that report that were totally ridiculous and almost funny when you thin about them.  ONLY  dummasses would fall for some of the shit AND the media and none of the "experts" have even tried to point the silly shit out. 

Think. The report says next to no vital intel has been obtained through EIT.  It says most of the intel obtained is lies told under torture.  I don't recall ONE time in my whole 22 months in Afgh when we were told, "get your guns and let's go find some bad guys to shoot." Every time we did anything se went out to specific places looking at specific times, to look for specific people, specific things and act like we were just dumb gyrines who didn't know what we were looking for. One time we did a four hour search on a small 6 house village before "noticing" the exact item we'd been shown satellite images of sitting right in our way the whole time.   Sooooo where did that intel come from?  The pentagon must be using psychics and have consult fortune tellers.  ...........  That's just one example.  One time we were rushed out to set up a  fake road check, told what car to look for, who would be in it and make sure its 4 tires were blown out 1 km before the road block so the occupants would have to get out and walk after all traffic on the road was stopped to prevent them from hitching rides.  When we go the guys back to base there were interesting guys there. After a staged accidental explosion the 3

At 9:06pm on September 19, 2014, Davis Goodman said…

Can't believe we weren't official friends here all this time!!!!

At 3:34am on September 2, 2014, Demetrius Alcala said…

You stole CBS

At 7:51am on August 10, 2014, Brandon Bissell said…

Yeah thanks. I was hoping to talk to you about something so I'll send a message soon.

At 10:30pm on March 25, 2014, Justin said…

ah yes Im new to it, thank u

At 2:58am on March 25, 2014, EMil Wentzel said…

Thanks :)

I'm still feeling my way around, glad to see so many wonderful positive and active voices here :)

At 11:56am on February 7, 2014, Reg The Fronkey Farmer said…

Thanks for the add Unseen. We took long enough lol...

At 2:46pm on August 30, 2013, Beth said…

Nice to meet you too!

At 3:45pm on May 22, 2013, Asura said…

Yeah i'am new here, seems like an amazing place :D

Thank you!

At 4:25am on March 3, 2013, Gregg R Thomas said…

You Tyrant You.  LOL

Oh well at least we now have Richard Bohn, I wonder how long he will last. :D

 
 
 

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