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Why isn't a 14 year old girl old enough to consent to sex?
Started this discussion. Last reply by Strega 1 hour ago. 36 Replies 0 Likes
After all, we think a 14 year old should be in control of her body enough to decide on her own to have an abortion, so why isn't she old enough to consent to sex?I'm thinking about this because of a…Continue
Smart women are making mankind dumber
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Yet another crime against humanity by smart women:Our technology may be getting smarter, but a provocative new study suggests human intelligence is on the decline. In fact, it indicates that…Continue
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The suburbs are becoming the new slums
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Remember the phenomenon of so-called "white flight" whereby affluent white folks sought shelter in the suburbs from crime or (in the case of racists) exposure to racial/ethnic minorities? Guess what…Continue
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Unseen replied to Unseen's discussion 'Why isn't a 14 year old girl old enough to consent to sex?'"I agree with much of what you say, except I'm not sure I want to live in a country where prosecutors are swayed by petitions."
Unseen replied to Unseen's discussion 'Why isn't a 14 year old girl old enough to consent to sex?'"I'm not sure she knows much more than that she doesn't want the baby, and the main reason is most often, I bet, that she doesn't want her legal guardians to know that she's been having sex.
So, she needs guardians in he one case…"
Unseen replied to Unseen's discussion 'Why isn't a 14 year old girl old enough to consent to sex?'"I'm pointing out that the ability to have an abortion is giving the woman control over her body.
So is letting her decide when and with whom to have sex. And if she isn't ready to have control over her body for sex, then perhaps…"
Helen Pluckrose replied to Unseen's discussion 'Why isn't a 14 year old girl old enough to consent to sex?'"Yes, that made me think too. I think so many of us feel that 14 is too young to be having sex because of how hard parenthood would be on such a young person. Therefore we see the decision to abort as sensible and the decision not to have sex as…"
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"If she is competent to assign herself surgery -"
because it's also a mental health and safety issue and she knows herself best..
"well then isn't she also competent to take on a sex…"
Belle Rose replied to Unseen's discussion 'Why isn't a 14 year old girl old enough to consent to sex?'"The purpose of what?"
Robert Stanton replied to Unseen's discussion 'Why isn't a 14 year old girl old enough to consent to sex?'"I agree completely. Having sex exposes her to the hazard of pregnancy (and STDs), when she is much too young to assume the burden, risk, and responsibility of bearing a child. But having an abortion returns her to a condition similar to her…"
Unseen replied to Unseen's discussion 'Why isn't a 14 year old girl old enough to consent to sex?'"We don't even require grown ups to have a license to have a baby. But if she can decide to have surgery, she already is more or less an adult under the law, at least in that regard."
Strega replied to Unseen's discussion 'Why isn't a 14 year old girl old enough to consent to sex?'"I don't know. Is a 14yo competent to have a baby?"
archaeopteryx replied to Unseen's discussion 'Why isn't a 14 year old girl old enough to consent to sex?'"In Arkansas, she is."
Unseen replied to Unseen's discussion 'Why isn't a 14 year old girl old enough to consent to sex?'"I'm asking why not be consistent and tie them together with a consistent notion of whether a 14 year old is competent to make such decisions. If she is competent to assign herself surgery well then isn't she also competent to take on a sex…"
Unseen replied to Unseen's discussion 'Why isn't a 14 year old girl old enough to consent to sex?'"So, if we figure she's competent enough to decide to have an abortion for fear of her parents' reaction, isn't she then ipso facto competent enough under the law to be thought of as capable of giving consent to sex to anyone whatever…"
Strega replied to Unseen's discussion 'Why isn't a 14 year old girl old enough to consent to sex?'"Both, probably. The abortion is a clear-up of a mistake already made, and an avoidance of bringing another human being in to the world that the biological mother would be too young to care for properly. A random 14 year old may well be…"
Unseen replied to Unseen's discussion 'Why isn't a 14 year old girl old enough to consent to sex?'"Sometimes parents won't want their 14 year old to be having sex. Is this no longer a parent's business.
I'm sorry abuse occurs, but are we now assuming that that's the case to such an extent that we no longer want more…"
Unseen replied to Unseen's discussion 'Why isn't a 14 year old girl old enough to consent to sex?'"Disaster aversion or avoiding an uncomfortable but possibly necessary conversation with one's parents? "
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The Sins Of Texas
Posted on September 6, 2011 at 2:19pm 3 Comments 0 Likes
If God sends hurricanes to punish Miami and New Orleans for their sinful ways, it's time for Texas to do some soul searching given the preview of hellfire they are getting now. Maybe it's due to Gov. Perry's alleged closeted homosexuality and infidelities. Woe betide Texas!
The magic returns to science
Posted on August 10, 2011 at 1:07am 3 Comments 2 Likes
When I was in my youth, the world belonged to Aristotle as the father of hard-edged, logical, empirical science. Plato represented a view that the world of the senses is actually not real at all, but is just a reflection of a greatly different ultimate reality.
That was in the 1970's. A lot has happened since then in terms of our understanding of reality and it has implications for the relation of science and religion.
Christians like to say that science feels…
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