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Quitting An Authoritarian Religion Was Part Easy and Part Not Easy

Started this discussion. Last reply by Simon Paynton Jun 1. 2 Replies

First, what I found necessary.The ability to say "I like" and feel okay.The ability to say "I don't like" and feel okay.The ability to set limits and feel okay.I now find these abilities helpful…Continue

Tags: assertiveness, passive-aggressive, catholicism

Many Americans Want the Under (Submissive) Place in Over/Under" (Dominant/Submissive) Relationships.

Started this discussion. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Apr 26. 2 Replies

In WW1 and WW2, the words Gott Mit Uns (God [is] With Us) were on German soldiers' belt buckles.In a recent (2008) book, Masters and Commanders; How Four Titans Won the War in the West, 1941-1945,…Continue

Tags: church and state, pledge of allegiance, under god

As Women Grow Their Economic and Political Power, How Will Morality Change?

Started Apr 17 0 Replies

In the mid-1970s Congress sent the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA) out to the states for ratification and a political battle ensued. Due to my then-deceased mother's influence in my life, I was active…Continue

Tags: rights, pay, equal, matriarchy, women

"Say 'Amen' one hundred times each day." WHAT!?!?! Say 'So be it' a hundred times each day?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Kairan Nierde Jun 23, 2013. 7 Replies

At the first religious service I've been to in about six years -- a funeral service for "Hank", a religious friend, the minister asked the attendees to say "Amen" 100 times each day. (That…Continue

Tags: rebellion., obedience, passivity, religion

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Tom Sarbeck replied to ɐuɐz ǝllǝıuɐp's discussion 'Disorders of Sex Development'
"Danielle, you might want to check out San Francisco Sex Information at www.sfsi.org for no cost answers to specific sexual issues. Many volunteers there are sex therapists, either practicing or in training. "
9 hours ago
Tom Sarbeck replied to Glen L's discussion 'Lobby'
"Glen, there are several organizations who lobby, file lawsuits and more in school-related issues. Here are their URLs and then short descriptions: www.aclu.org \\\ www.ffrf.org, \\\ www.au.org, \\\ www.ncse.com ffrf - Freedom from Religion…"
9 hours ago
Tom Sarbeck replied to Stephen Gunn's discussion 'FROM THE WORD OF GOD IN THE OLD TESTAMENT'
"These words might have inspired the song "Dry Bones" of decades ago. Part of the song went something like: "Toe bone connected to the foot bone. / Foot bone connected to the ankle bone. / et cetera all the way up to the head bone.…"
10 hours ago
Tom Sarbeck commented on Heather Spoonheim's blog post 'Flies & Freewill'
"How do we edit Shakespeare's "sound and fury signifying nothing" to apply it to written stuff?Anyway, consider it applied to this discussion. Political activity persuaded me that whether behavior is chosen or determined, what counts…"
yesterday
Tom Sarbeck commented on Heather Spoonheim's blog post 'Flies & Freewill'
"So true. For 12 years nuns and priests told me people have free will. They did a lot of blaming; almost no praising. "
Monday
Tom Sarbeck commented on Heather Spoonheim's blog post 'Flies & Freewill'
"An apt metaphor for whose life? Of course, for the lives of those who most vigorously deny its application to them. "
Sunday
Tom Sarbeck commented on Heather Spoonheim's blog post 'Flies & Freewill'
"U, re your 'non sequitur much?' reply to my 'How soon will we see your specs for the world?' Of course it's a non sequitur! I will explain with a metaphor. I don't want to follow you to where so many of your…"
Friday
Tom Sarbeck commented on Heather Spoonheim's blog post 'Flies & Freewill'
"U, you appear stuck in a two-state place. According to Sam Hayakawa's 1960s book on semantics, having but two options is a result of unresolved stress. There is, you know, an agnostic option. "
Friday
Tom Sarbeck commented on Heather Spoonheim's blog post 'Flies & Freewill'
"If you say so, U. How soon will we see your specs for the world? "
Jul 16
Tom Sarbeck commented on Heather Spoonheim's blog post 'Flies & Freewill'
"Cosmology is not a branch of physics; it's a branch of  astronomy. According to a major league dictionary I consulted several years ago -- I didn't note its name or publisher -- cosmology is a blend of astronomy and…"
Jul 16
Tom Sarbeck replied to Unseen's discussion 'What species will take over after humankind is gone?'
"Yeah, the ants who occasionally invade my microwave oven have ignored my attempts to exterminate them there. Those who invaded the freezer compartment in my refrigerator became history. "
Jul 16
Tom Sarbeck commented on Heather Spoonheim's blog post 'Flies & Freewill'
"Free will? We require evidence for god(s). Why do some of us not require evidence for free will? I quit Catholicism 60 years ago and found free will as easy to ignore as other dogmas. That was because by then…"
Jul 16
Tom Sarbeck commented on Heather Spoonheim's blog post 'Flies & Freewill'
"Black energy and black matter are NOT physics problems; they are cosmology problems. Source: Oxford English Dictionary. "
Jul 16
Tom Sarbeck replied to Gallup's Mirror's discussion 'Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) "disproves" atheism'
"Did Louie Gohmert graduate pre-school or did the administrator not allow him to repeat it a fourth time?  "
Jul 15
Tom Sarbeck commented on Heather Spoonheim's blog post 'Flies & Freewill'
"U, I find that an interesting thought. If I were to start behaving as though I don't have free will, how would my behavior differ from my present behavior? I might start an alternative memoir and see where it goes.  "
Jul 15
Tom Sarbeck commented on Heather Spoonheim's blog post 'Flies & Freewill'
"U, re your use of the cliché Consistency. The bugaboo of small minds.  It's an academic's version of a politician's Consistency. The bugaboo of small ambitions.  "
Jul 15

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Your Religious Status
Atheist
About Me:
Korean War veteran, was an electrician aboard a US Navy destroyer. BA in math and economics from the University of Florida. Married for 6 years to a freethinker, and for reasons too complicated to tell here we chose to remain childless. Retired from computer manufacturing. Running for election to Arizona Legislature was another education; I learned a lot but happily the incumbent won. Now living in SF Bay Area's Napa County and loving it.
Age
77-82
Relationship Status
Single
Why are you here?
For 16 years I've been one of a very few out atheists at a home for retired veterans. Most here are xians, some of them extremely conservative. Most here are Dems and they give me no flak. They all accept my refusing to pledge allegiance to a piece of cloth; I told them I will discuss the issue when they pledge allegiance to the Constitution. I enjoy the mental exercise I get in conversations on atheist websites.
The religion you left
Catholic
Why you left your religion.
When my parents told me I was going to college because I was too lazy to get a job, I threw them and their god out of my life. Several years later I made a peace of sorts with my parents. In April of 2012, in a Toastmasters Club here, I told of my leaving Catholicism for agnosticism and 50 years later leaving agnosticism for atheism. There are many out xians here. Very few try to recruit me; I tell them that but for 12 years in Catholic schools I might still believe one or more gods exist. To the very few who try to recruit me, I say religion is the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on humankind. They stop trying.
Think Atheist Travel Network Couch Availability - Are you able to host anyone now?
No
How did you hear about Think Atheist?
When TA was a contestant in the About Contest.

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At 2:35pm on June 17, 2014, Abdulrahman Aliyu said…
That's right friend, if we can really rely on the unseenism we will be free from internet's brain damage.
At 9:22pm on May 12, 2014, Ari E. S. said…

I'm sorry that you and your brothers had to go through that.

At first I was thinking along the lines of a huge steal. Sorry, that I misunderstood. :(

At 1:27am on May 12, 2014, Ari E. S. said…

Wait a second. I compared the message you've sent here to the initial one I received by mail about my discussion and I find it funny but scary at the same time. You stole things in the past? I appreciate your advice but what was left on the e-mail is very questionable. I would find it very scary to come back to see my home a mess and I'd feel very violated. I really don't know what to think about to this. I guess what is done is done, but I wouldn't see stealing as necessary unless your life of yourself or someone you love is at high risk. :s

At 8:28pm on July 16, 2013, archaeopteryx said…

RE: "arch, your posts have shown me that you are a worthy debater" - only because I'm out of vodka.

As for Google, you seem to be more popular than I - try, http://in-his-own-image.com/2010/01/24/-in-his-own-image-.aspx

At 2:25am on June 23, 2013, Karl Hanks said…

Hi Tom!  Just joined so I only have said hello!  Hello!

At 2:32pm on June 9, 2013, Simon Paynton said…

Thanks Tom.  I'm glad to hear it.  Yes I am. 

At 11:05am on December 16, 2012, Denise M. Purtell said…

Dude, all I was saying is that religion, or the lack there of, rather - has nothing to do with some nutcase and killing children. Holy rollers have been seemingly blaming the fact of "no religion in school" is the cause. It is an observation I've made. So all I was doing was trying to make a point that it is nothing to do with that and it has everything to do with the individual idiot just being a crazy bastard. 

That is all I was saying. 

At 8:42am on February 27, 2012, Robert Karp said…

Welcome to the Think Atheist community Tom! Join us in the chat on the bottom right of the screen and feel free to ask questions and get involved as much or as little as you want! If you would like to, add me as a friend and I'm also on twitter as RSAnative if you care to follow. Welcome again and make yourself at home!

 
 
 

  

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