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Hacking Happens: Describe Life When We Have Few If Any Secrets

Started this discussion. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Oct 18, 2016. 10 Replies

During the 1960s, we in the computer industry knew hackers would try to get access to information stored on computers. We knew confidentiality, or secrecy,  would require each pair of computers to…Continue

Tags: manipulation, blackmail, shame, control, hacking

Real Life: What We Don't Say About Politics, Religion or Sexuality Because...

Started this discussion. Last reply by TJ Oct 13, 2016. 4 Replies

...what we want to say may frighten those whose approval we seek. "What we don't talk about will be used to rule over us."I first heard those words while I was neck-deep in serious politics and…Continue

Tags: silence, sexuality, religon, politics

"It's the Best Explanation We Have." "Is It Really?" "But I Believe!"

Started this discussion. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Jul 4, 2016. 82 Replies

Time: Ten thousand years ago. Gods are the best explanation for everything. In the day they give light so people can see what they do, and in the night gods give darkness people can rest. The gods…Continue

Tags: thought, skepticism, belief

Atheist Epitaphery

Started this discussion. Last reply by Jake LaFort Apr 24, 2016. 2 Replies

Alas, no more sex; no more beer.It's not original; a paleontologist found it in ancient Egypt.Hm-mm, if I want people to see it, I won't want an ocean burial.Continue

Tags: Humor, Epitaphs, Atheists

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Tom Sarbeck replied to Sydni Moser's discussion 'The Rich Are Different: More Money, Less Empathy' in the group THE THINKING APE
"The rich ARE different: INdifferent. My evidence? During a year of delivering telegrams before the US Navy called me to active duty, no one in the wealthy part of town tipped me. All of my tips came from people in the blue collar part of town. The…"
Mar 6
Tom Sarbeck commented on Andrew Brown's blog post 'American Politic'
"He doesn't but he has some music in him. He also doesn't know how many people are consulted as a law is drafted."
Feb 17
Tom Sarbeck commented on Kirk LeFou's photo

Intelligent design works

"A clever leadin to some nice satire, Kirk. I wish I had a sense of humor, but my ancestors were Germans. In 1914 somebody told a German joke. In 1937 somebody told another one."
Feb 16
Tom Sarbeck replied to Belle Rose's discussion 'Narcissistic People'
"Reg, I borrow from that for a humorous speech contest. It's good!"
Feb 2
Tom Sarbeck replied to Belle Rose's discussion 'Narcissistic People'
"Simon, I recently dealt with a narcissist who'd been elected to chair a small town council. As its parliamentarian I advised its members on how to remove him from office, and in doing so I consulted the DSM. I came to know him rather well and…"
Feb 2
Tom Sarbeck replied to Belle Rose's discussion 'Narcissistic People'
"Reg, thank you for helping me illustrate. If you will retrace your steps since you last used your hairbrush, you'll prolly find it. Unless I stole it."
Jan 31
Tom Sarbeck replied to Belle Rose's discussion 'Narcissistic People'
"Postscript. The game is not maliciously intended. When early caregivers don't know how to maintain relationships, they are unable to pass the skills along."
Jan 31
Tom Sarbeck replied to Belle Rose's discussion 'Narcissistic People'
"Belle, if you won't explain your reason(s) for it's not adding up, I for one will know you are playing Eric Berne's "Why don't you ...?", "Yes, but...." game. In that game, people make efforts to help someone…"
Jan 31
Tom Sarbeck replied to Belle Rose's discussion 'How do you define God?'
"Intelligent? Caries, cancer, West Nile fever, dropsy, halitosis, alternate factism, etc, etc and etc? An inveterate fuck-up."
Jan 24
Tom Sarbeck replied to Belle Rose's discussion 'How do you define God?'
"The one pronounced Zeeus or the one pronunced Zous?"
Jan 24
Tom Sarbeck replied to James kelsey's discussion 'Are there Socially Conservative Atheists?'
"On social issues I'm progressive, way out to the left of liberal. I'm a collective capitalist; I want employees to own the companies they work for. It's anti-Wall Street. Is it conservative?"
Jan 23
Tom Sarbeck replied to Belle Rose's discussion 'Immaculate conception!!'
"The reading I've done agrees with you. It reduces both genetic diversity AND resistance to attacks by organisms that can lunch on new-borns."
Jan 23
Tom Sarbeck replied to Belle Rose's discussion 'Can you ever really heal from trauma/abuse?'
"Belle, here's everything the Dictionary of Psychology (R150.3 in the Vets Home Library) says. The symptoms include: • Re-experiencing the event – recurring recollections, including dreams and nightmares about the traumatic…"
Jan 23
Tom Sarbeck replied to Belle Rose's discussion 'Can you ever really heal from trauma/abuse?'
"Belle, I saw the four stages in a dictionary of psychology, which described each stage in ten or twelve words. The alertness is the leasr severe stage; the acting out behavior is the most severe. In my teens I had one nightmare and after I tossed…"
Jan 23
Tom Sarbeck replied to Belle Rose's discussion 'Can you ever really heal from trauma/abuse?'
"Much as TJ said, scar tissue protects a physical wound as it heals. Some discoloration might remain for a long time. The four stages of PTSD (alertness, emotional separation, physical separation, acting out behavior) protect the mind as it adapts…"
Jan 22
Tom Sarbeck replied to Belle Rose's discussion 'Can you ever really heal from trauma/abuse?'
"As TJ said, scar tissue protects a physical wound as it heals."
Jan 22

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Korean War veteran, was an electrician aboard a US Navy destroyer. BA in math and economics from the University of Florida. Married for 6 years to a freethinker, and for reasons too complicated to tell here we chose to remain childless. Retired from computer manufacturing. Running for election to Arizona Legislature was another education; I learned a lot but happily the incumbent won. Now living in SF Bay Area's Napa County and loving it.
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In 1957 I chose agnosticism. In 2009 I came out atheist at a home for retired veterans. Many of the 1000+ residents are fallen-away xians; a very few are extremely conservative. About 70% are Dems. A few know I don't pledge allegiance to a piece of cloth; I tell them I will discuss the issue when they pledge allegiance to the Constitution. I enjoy the mental exercise I get in chats on atheist websites.
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Why you left your religion.
When my parents told me I was going to college because I was too lazy to get a job, I threw them and their god out of my life. Several years later I made a peace of sorts with my parents. In April of 2012, in a Toastmasters Club here, I told of my leaving Catholicism for agnosticism and 50 years later leaving agnosticism for atheism. I tell polite xians that were it not for 12 years in Catholic schools I might still believe a god exists. To xians who try to recruit me, I say religion is the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on humankind. They stop trying.
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When TA was a contestant in the About Contest.

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At 4:33am on March 2, 2015, Mai said…

Hi Tom,

I consider myself lucky, there are a lot more people that had/have it worse off than me. There are so many societies, areas, institutions or religons I would not have liked to have grown up in, where the dogma would have completely taken over & controlled my whole life.

We are surely lucky we are out the other side. I'm even thankful, in a way, to my religious upbringing. I hated that I had to do religious education at the time, what was that qualification going to be any good for? but now I find it quite useful. It contributed to the atheist I am.

All the best, Mai

At 8:10pm on January 14, 2015, Davis Goodman said…

Great line. I think that applies even more broadly.

Humour: Start a line clearly leading to an obvious and expected conclusion and then finish it with an entertaining line that is equally plausible (or better implausible) but catches you off guard. :)

At 3:38pm on December 23, 2014, Belle Rose said…
Thanks Tom! Hmmm award winning plays, now there's an idea!
At 8:51am on August 4, 2014, Ed said…

Ah yes, we've come a long way since the Prohibitionists marched down the streets garbed in black and carrying placards bemoaning the evils of spirits

At 11:34pm on August 1, 2014, Ed said…


Napa County huh? Wine country if I'm correct. I have a small vineyard here in Arkansas. En vino veritas.

At 2:35pm on June 17, 2014, Abdulrahman Aliyu said…
That's right friend, if we can really rely on the unseenism we will be free from internet's brain damage.
At 2:25am on June 23, 2013, Karl Hanks said…

Hi Tom!  Just joined so I only have said hello!  Hello!

At 2:32pm on June 9, 2013, Simon Paynton said…

Thanks Tom.  I'm glad to hear it.  Yes I am. 

At 11:05am on December 16, 2012, Denise M. Purtell said…

Dude, all I was saying is that religion, or the lack there of, rather - has nothing to do with some nutcase and killing children. Holy rollers have been seemingly blaming the fact of "no religion in school" is the cause. It is an observation I've made. So all I was doing was trying to make a point that it is nothing to do with that and it has everything to do with the individual idiot just being a crazy bastard. 

That is all I was saying. 

At 8:42am on February 27, 2012, Robert Karp said…

Welcome to the Think Atheist community Tom! Join us in the chat on the bottom right of the screen and feel free to ask questions and get involved as much or as little as you want! If you would like to, add me as a friend and I'm also on twitter as RSAnative if you care to follow. Welcome again and make yourself at home!


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