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"It's the Best Explanation We Have." "Is It Really?" "But I Believe!"

Started this discussion. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck yesterday. 69 Replies

Time: Ten thousand years ago. Gods are the best explanation for everything. In the day they give light so people can see what they do, and in the night gods give darkness people can rest. The gods…Continue

Tags: thought, skepticism, belief

Atheist Epitaphery

Started this discussion. Last reply by Jake LaFort Apr 24. 2 Replies

Alas, no more sex; no more beer.It's not original; a paleontologist found it in ancient Egypt.Hm-mm, if I want people to see it, I won't want an ocean burial.Continue

Tags: Humor, Epitaphs, Atheists

Hell Has No Fury Like An Idealist Disappointed

Started this discussion. Last reply by Pope Beanie Nov 24, 2015. 4 Replies

The world we live in disappoints many idealists. I could write a book describing the furies I felt. Instead, I ask "When for most children idealism peaks at age twelve and gradually lessens, why did…Continue

Tags: politics, realism, realists, self-discovery, pessimism

Human Brain Continues To Develop Until Well Into 30s and 40s (at least!)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Strega May 2, 2015. 5 Replies

New research from the UK shows the brain continues to develop after childhood and puberty, and is not fully developed until people are well into their 30s and 40s. The findings contradict current…Continue

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Tom Sarbeck replied to Davis Goodman's discussion 'How to easily manipulate people into voting for something utterly against their best interests'
"Thank you, Davis, for deleting my reply to your term "anglo-saxon power". "
3 hours ago
Tom Sarbeck commented on Morgan Matthew's group 'Atheists who love Science!'
"      Can you recommend any particular scientist.... Halton Arp, in Wikipedia: If the lines in the spectrum of the light from a star or galaxy appear at a lower frequency (shifted toward the red) than where they are observed…"
11 hours ago
Tom Sarbeck commented on Morgan Matthew's group 'Atheists who love Science!'
"       It reminds me too much of the creationist agenda.... Think Ptolemy. His circular orbits needed hypothesized smaller circles upon his original circles. I don't know how many more hypothesized still smaller…"
11 hours ago
Tom Sarbeck replied to Davis Goodman's discussion 'How to easily manipulate people into voting for something utterly against their best interests'
"Is there a nation whose elites don't exploit the non-elites? Who but non-elites will stop slow the exploitation? The greater the elites' exploitation, the greater the non-elites' anger. The greater the non-elites' exploitation,…"
12 hours ago
Tom Sarbeck replied to Davis Goodman's discussion 'How to easily manipulate people into voting for something utterly against their best interests'
"In the US of A, Davis, that translates to "government of, by and for investors". I will welcome its demise, and employees owning the companies they work for is slowly digging the grave. "
13 hours ago
Tom Sarbeck replied to Tom Sarbeck's discussion '"It's the Best Explanation We Have." "Is It Really?" "But I Believe!"'
"Here's some food for thought: http://homepages.xnet.co.nz/~hardy/cosmologystatement.html Alternatively, search on "An Open Letter to the Scientific Community" and choose a link. And here's some food for belief: Genesis "
yesterday
Tom Sarbeck commented on Morgan Matthew's group 'Atheists who love Science!'
"An Open Letter to the Scientific Community Search on the above and read. What say you? "
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Tom Sarbeck replied to Wassabi's discussion 'the possibilty of a creator after all?'
"A guy in New Jersey sees the word "Theism" and thinks Bronze Age? "
Monday
Tom Sarbeck replied to Wassabi's discussion 'the possibilty of a creator after all?'
"In two battery-powered clocks, I turned the batteries around and time stopped. I put the batteries in the correct way and time started again. Take that, universe! "
Friday
Tom Sarbeck replied to Tom Sarbeck's discussion '"It's the Best Explanation We Have." "Is It Really?" "But I Believe!"'
"TJ, in another discussion you said you go with your gut. When scientists go with their guts they can find important topics for research, but doing the science requires them to do some thinking and to suspend judgment until they have evidence. In…"
Friday
TJ replied to Tom Sarbeck's discussion '"It's the Best Explanation We Have." "Is It Really?" "But I Believe!"'
"I find things that are only contradictory if misinterpreted...could you be more specific than "search"? Cite a few that you feel are reasonable examples. :)"
Thursday
Tom Sarbeck replied to Wassabi's discussion 'the possibilty of a creator after all?'
"A = B is"
Jun 23
Tom Sarbeck replied to Wassabi's discussion 'the possibilty of a creator after all?'
"Theists and Bangers all believe there was a beginning. The Theists invented one and the Bangers invented one. "
Jun 23
Tom Sarbeck replied to Tom Sarbeck's discussion '"It's the Best Explanation We Have." "Is It Really?" "But I Believe!"'
"TJ, I found contradictory evidence in a library and started thinking. I searched the Web and found more. Search and you too will find. "
Jun 23
TJ replied to Tom Sarbeck's discussion '"It's the Best Explanation We Have." "Is It Really?" "But I Believe!"'
"Could you expound upon the conflict you seem to imply between what "bangers say" and the contradictory evidence you have for the scenario? :)"
Jun 22

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Atheist
About Me:
Korean War veteran, was an electrician aboard a US Navy destroyer. BA in math and economics from the University of Florida. Married for 6 years to a freethinker, and for reasons too complicated to tell here we chose to remain childless. Retired from computer manufacturing. Running for election to Arizona Legislature was another education; I learned a lot but happily the incumbent won. Now living in SF Bay Area's Napa County and loving it.
Age
83-88
Relationship Status
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Why are you here?
In 1957 I chose agnosticism. In 2009 I came out atheist at a home for retired veterans. Many of the 1000+ residents are fallen-away xians; a very few are extremely conservative. About 70% are Dems. A few know I don't pledge allegiance to a piece of cloth; I tell them I will discuss the issue when they pledge allegiance to the Constitution. I enjoy the mental exercise I get in chats on atheist websites.
The religion you left
Catholic
Why you left your religion.
When my parents told me I was going to college because I was too lazy to get a job, I threw them and their god out of my life. Several years later I made a peace of sorts with my parents. In April of 2012, in a Toastmasters Club here, I told of my leaving Catholicism for agnosticism and 50 years later leaving agnosticism for atheism. I tell polite xians that were it not for 12 years in Catholic schools I might still believe a god exists. To xians who try to recruit me, I say religion is the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on humankind. They stop trying.
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How did you hear about Think Atheist?
When TA was a contestant in the About Contest.

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At 4:33am on March 2, 2015, Mai said…

Hi Tom,

I consider myself lucky, there are a lot more people that had/have it worse off than me. There are so many societies, areas, institutions or religons I would not have liked to have grown up in, where the dogma would have completely taken over & controlled my whole life.

We are surely lucky we are out the other side. I'm even thankful, in a way, to my religious upbringing. I hated that I had to do religious education at the time, what was that qualification going to be any good for? but now I find it quite useful. It contributed to the atheist I am.

All the best, Mai

At 8:10pm on January 14, 2015, Davis Goodman said…

Great line. I think that applies even more broadly.

Humour: Start a line clearly leading to an obvious and expected conclusion and then finish it with an entertaining line that is equally plausible (or better implausible) but catches you off guard. :)

At 3:38pm on December 23, 2014, Belle Rose said…
Thanks Tom! Hmmm award winning plays, now there's an idea!
At 8:51am on August 4, 2014, Ed said…

Ah yes, we've come a long way since the Prohibitionists marched down the streets garbed in black and carrying placards bemoaning the evils of spirits

At 11:34pm on August 1, 2014, Ed said…

Tom,

Napa County huh? Wine country if I'm correct. I have a small vineyard here in Arkansas. En vino veritas.

At 2:35pm on June 17, 2014, Abdulrahman Aliyu said…
That's right friend, if we can really rely on the unseenism we will be free from internet's brain damage.
At 2:25am on June 23, 2013, Karl Hanks said…

Hi Tom!  Just joined so I only have said hello!  Hello!

At 2:32pm on June 9, 2013, Simon Paynton said…

Thanks Tom.  I'm glad to hear it.  Yes I am. 

At 11:05am on December 16, 2012, Denise M. Purtell said…

Dude, all I was saying is that religion, or the lack there of, rather - has nothing to do with some nutcase and killing children. Holy rollers have been seemingly blaming the fact of "no religion in school" is the cause. It is an observation I've made. So all I was doing was trying to make a point that it is nothing to do with that and it has everything to do with the individual idiot just being a crazy bastard. 

That is all I was saying. 

At 8:42am on February 27, 2012, Robert Karp said…

Welcome to the Think Atheist community Tom! Join us in the chat on the bottom right of the screen and feel free to ask questions and get involved as much or as little as you want! If you would like to, add me as a friend and I'm also on twitter as RSAnative if you care to follow. Welcome again and make yourself at home!

 
 
 

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