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Is your life after religion what you expected?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Lewal Apr 20. 1 Reply

If I had put my expectations into words I would have said "Life can't get any worse!" (Before college I was a Catholic.)Life couldn't get any worse than that of the only Catholic I knew well: my…Continue

Tags: freedom, quitting, religion, atheism

The "under God" and the "under": which does what kind of harm?

Started May 3, 2012 0 Replies

Do you want to play a switch in a relationship, or do you want to play the submissive in a dominant/submissive relationship?Look carefully at the words "under God".I dislike the "God" part; I believe…Continue

Tags: equality, esteem, religion, politics

"When X changes my mind, I'm an atheist. What is X?" Is it a nonsense question?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Jewelz Apr 19, 2012. 7 Replies

Here, lightly paraphrased, are three assertions I found in a Kindle book from www.edge.org (What Have You Changed Your Mind About?).When thinking changes my mind,…Continue

Tags: atheism, science, religion, philosophy

Christianity, slave morality, and freeing ourselves.

Started this discussion. Last reply by archaeopteryx Sep 18, 2012. 10 Replies

Friedrich Nietzsche, in  his On the Genealogy of Morals, said there are two types of morality: master morality, which weighs actions by their [perceived] good or bad consequences, and slave morality,…Continue

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Tom Sarbeck replied to Mercedes's discussion 'Why do atheists ask for so much proof to believe in God?'
"Hm-mm, I last visited TA several days ago, before Mercedes arrived. Who works harder to win converts, TAers or Jehovah Witnesses? "
13 hours ago
Tom Sarbeck replied to Adam's discussion 'Do Men have the right to a "financial abortion"'
"So far in this discussion no one has written of the community in which these people live. According to a book I was browsing a few months ago about medieval (post-feudal) England, an unmarried woman who became pregnant was ordered to leave the…"
14 hours ago
Tom Sarbeck replied to Bo Fowler's discussion 'What is not believing in God like?'
"Davis, I enjoyed your spoof. It was a spoof, wasn't it? "
Saturday
Tom Sarbeck replied to Sarah's discussion 'Coming to terms with reality'
"Daniel, do you know the term "god of the gap"? Xians use it. They see a gap in knowledge of evolution and put their god there. You're putting luck in the gaps. With this exception, your remark about silicon suggests that you have seen…"
Thursday
Tom Sarbeck replied to Sarah's discussion 'Coming to terms with reality'
"Daniel, your existence is a result of chance; it's short and brutal, and you feel lucky about the outcome? Existence and non-existence are ultimately impossible to compare, but you insist on comparing them. Sound and fury, signifying what? "
Thursday
Tom Sarbeck commented on Joseph Martin's blog post 'Atheism requires a leap of faith?!?!'
"Daniel, your "I know that he is possible, I feel that he is impossible" reminds me of the words of a man I knew who was nearing a Ph D. in psychology. He said After the words "I feel", the word "that"…"
Thursday
Tom Sarbeck replied to Sarah's discussion 'Coming to terms with reality'
"Unseen, I agree that billions if not trillions of other individuals might have come into existence. Evolution has no concern for the environment. Give some of your capable attention to so-called false dichotomies. The discussion here suggests that…"
Thursday
Tom Sarbeck replied to Sarah's discussion 'Coming to terms with reality'
"Daniel Rambling can open doors to interesting places. It can also let doors to painful places remain closed. Put a few chemicals in water, add electricity, and let some time pass. Some research suggests that methane, not oxygen, made the resulting…"
Thursday
Tom Sarbeck commented on Joseph Martin's blog post 'Atheism requires a leap of faith?!?!'
"Daniel, I didn't know you were with me from about 1958 until several years ago, knowing better than I what was happening. How did you do it? Or are you finding it easier to change dogmas than to give up the need for a dogma? "
Thursday
Tom Sarbeck replied to Sarah's discussion 'Coming to terms with reality'
"Daniel, your explanation provides context. Thank you. I was about to remark on your final sentence, about being lucky, and then noted your final paragraph. You switched from a first person singular pronoun, to second person, and than to first person…"
Wednesday
Tom Sarbeck commented on Joseph Martin's blog post 'Atheism requires a leap of faith?!?!'
"Joseph, a conclusion that I'm trolling requires a good deal more evidence than I've given you. "
Wednesday
Tom Sarbeck commented on Joseph Martin's blog post 'Atheism requires a leap of faith?!?!'
"Daniel: "There is no way to sit directly on the fence.  Simply knowing that the fence exists precludes that." You're saying that to a guy who sat on the fence from for about fifty years? Are you counting on the word…"
Wednesday
Tom Sarbeck replied to Unseen's discussion 'What to do with guilty Jodi Arias and other psychopaths'
"Who will reject the good because it's not perfect? Unseen will if it stimulates discussion. "
May 14
Tom Sarbeck commented on Joseph Martin's blog post 'Atheism requires a leap of faith?!?!'
"Until idiotic has an agreed-upon definition, it might be idiotic to claim that anything is absolutely idiotic. "
May 14
Tom Sarbeck replied to Bo Fowler's discussion 'What is not believing in God like?'
"Belle, a roller coaster period is a good time to be keeping notes for a memoir. The religious beliefs I knew (Catholicism's) were so cruel that I felt no discomfort or confusion. I felt a bit comforted that all of the world's major…"
May 14
Tom Sarbeck replied to Unseen's discussion 'What to do with guilty Jodi Arias and other psychopaths'
"When those who order the war do so in order to steal another nation's assets? Or when their god tells them to order a war? Or when they feel slighted by another nation's leader? Etc, etc, etc? "
May 14

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Your Religious Status
Atheist
About Me:
Korean War veteran, was an electrician aboard a US Navy destroyer. BA in math and economics from the University of Florida. Married for 6 years to a freethinker, and for reasons too complicated to tell here we chose to remain childless. Retired from computer manufacturing. Running for election to Arizona Legislature was another education; I learned a lot but happily the incumbent won. Now living in SF Bay Area's Napa County and loving it.
Age
77-82
Relationship Status
Single
Why are you here?
For 16 years I've been one of a very few out atheists at a home for retired veterans. Most here are xians, some of them extremely conservative. Most here are Dems and they give me no flak. They all accept my refusing to pledge allegiance to a piece of cloth; I told them I will discuss the issue when they pledge allegiance to the Constitution. I enjoy the mental exercise I get in conversations on atheist websites.
The religion you left
Catholic
Why you left your religion.
When my parents told me I was going to college because I was too lazy to get a job, I threw them and their god out of my life. Several years later I made a peace of sorts with my parents. In April of 2012, in a Toastmasters Club here, I told of my leaving Catholicism for agnosticism and 50 years later leaving agnosticism for atheism. There are many out xians here. Very few try to recruit me; I tell them that but for 12 years in Catholic schools I might still believe one or more gods exist. To the very few who try to recruit me, I say religion is the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on humankind. They stop trying.
Think Atheist Travel Network Couch Availability - Are you able to host anyone now?
No
How did you hear about Think Atheist?
When TA was a contestant in the About Contest.

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At 11:05am on December 16, 2012, Denise M. Purtell said…

Dude, all I was saying is that religion, or the lack there of, rather - has nothing to do with some nutcase and killing children. Holy rollers have been seemingly blaming the fact of "no religion in school" is the cause. It is an observation I've made. So all I was doing was trying to make a point that it is nothing to do with that and it has everything to do with the individual idiot just being a crazy bastard. 

That is all I was saying. 

At 8:42am on February 27, 2012, Robert Karp said…

Welcome to the Think Atheist community Tom! Join us in the chat on the bottom right of the screen and feel free to ask questions and get involved as much or as little as you want! If you would like to, add me as a friend and I'm also on twitter as RSAnative if you care to follow. Welcome again and make yourself at home!

 
 
 

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