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Do Corporate Leaders Pay Attention to Their Bottom Line: Their Profits?

Started Nov 9 0 Replies

Customer protests have moved a few companies to quit ALEC (the most extreme of the many conservative lobbying organizations).Will customer protests move companies to reconsider their use of our…Continue

Tags: politics, corruption

Theodore Roosevelt, Like Many of America's Founders, Not A Theist?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Simon Mathews Sep 17. 3 Replies

My evidence is in the early minutes of Part Two of Ken Burns' documentary.On TR's first day in the Executive Mansion, September 23 1901, he denied Xianity's promise of immortality when he gave…Continue

Tags: founders, presidents, America, theism, deism

What's some of the evidence that supports the thesis that the "Intelligent Designer" was beyond stupid.

Started this discussion. Last reply by Diane Aug 31. 45 Replies

Let me name the ways. (I will limit myself to three.)With any intelligence would he/she/it have designed:1) Tooth decay?2) An amygdala that when squeezed by cancer results in a young man's becoming a…Continue

Tags: design, evolution

Quitting An Authoritarian Religion Was Part Easy and Part Not Easy

Started this discussion. Last reply by Simon Paynton Jun 1. 2 Replies

First, what I found necessary.The ability to say "I like" and feel okay.The ability to say "I don't like" and feel okay.The ability to set limits and feel okay.I now find these abilities helpful…Continue

Tags: assertiveness, passive-aggressive, catholicism

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Tom Sarbeck replied to Belle Rose's discussion 'The Elephant in the Room...'
"I might understand, Kairan. During my 12  years at San Francisco Sex Information (which ended almost 20 years ago), I met many "trannies" -- pre-op, post-op and partway. Some of them spoke of the distress they felt at being in…"
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Tom Sarbeck replied to Belle Rose's discussion 'The Elephant in the Room...'
"Here's one of several reasons: women are more pragmatic than men. Most of them have more to do than engage in often endless debate over often trifling matters. "
Saturday
Tom Sarbeck replied to Belle Rose's discussion 'Why do we tolerate this?'
"@Belle, Years after I quit Catholicism I decided that the world has no mercy on idealists. Then I read somewhere that in young people idealism peaks at about twelve and gradually declines during their teens. I wondered why it hadn't declined…"
Saturday
Tom Sarbeck replied to Reg The Fronkey Farmer's discussion 'The Doctor and the Farmer'
"Davis, Bob reminds me of a guy I know who sometimes wants to quit Catholicism and at other times fears to leave the plantation. "
Dec 14
Tom Sarbeck replied to Reg The Fronkey Farmer's discussion 'The Doctor and the Farmer'
"Davis, TA folk are taking it seriously. Sixteen pages so far. "
Dec 14
Tom Sarbeck replied to Reg The Fronkey Farmer's discussion 'The Doctor and the Farmer'
"Davis, I wasn't trolling. I was satirizing what looked like an endless discussion about very little. I stay away  from discussions on religion; I looked at this one only because I saw it mentioned on TA's home page. During my 12 years…"
Dec 14
Tom Sarbeck replied to Reg The Fronkey Farmer's discussion 'The Doctor and the Farmer'
"A postmodernist might take it further, saying: 1) every noun is a concept, 2) every verb is a concept about a relation between one or more noun-concepts, 3) every  adjective is a concept about one or more noun-concepts, 4) every  adverb is…"
Dec 14
Tom Sarbeck replied to Reg The Fronkey Farmer's discussion 'The Doctor and the Farmer'
"Have any pragmatists ever visited these environs? I ask because, while reading the first and the last of these pages (currently 14), I saw repeated mentions that both god and energy are concepts but no mentions that the two differ. Bob, gratuitously…"
Dec 14
Tom Sarbeck replied to Sammy Ahmed's discussion 'Why is it "the norm" to be a believer?'
"Polls tell us that as education increases, religiosity decreases. The distribution of mental ability in the population probably follows the Normal Curve. Does the distribution of religiosity in the population similarly follow the Normal Curve? "
Dec 14
Tom Sarbeck replied to Cato Rigas's discussion 'Why religion still makes sense in the 21st century human experience'
"WHAT!!! You don't count them? "
Dec 8
Tom Sarbeck replied to Cato Rigas's discussion 'Why religion still makes sense in the 21st century human experience'
"@Mike, I think there is a tendency to accept the explanation that feels most comfortable whether or not it is absolutely accurate. That is true of people who "lie for Jesus". Google David Barton, who is well known to evangelicals. He makes…"
Dec 8
Tom Sarbeck replied to Cato Rigas's discussion 'Why religion still makes sense in the 21st century human experience'
"U, they DO use words like that. warning: metaphor ahead: Your problem is that you are unable to shift your mind out of gear. If you could do that, you would understand people whose minds have only a low gear. For instance, Bill Orally on Faux Nooz.…"
Dec 8
Tom Sarbeck replied to Cato Rigas's discussion 'Why religion still makes sense in the 21st century human experience'
"You did recycle a charge made by uninformed xians, Bill. You also didn't know the purpose of legal fictions/inventions. For whom were you speaking/writing? "
Dec 4
Tom Sarbeck replied to Cato Rigas's discussion 'Why religion still makes sense in the 21st century human experience'
"Simon, the Bill C above is an xian apologist. No matter what xians have done, he will say atheists have done worse. Two of the mass murderers he won't name are Hitler and Stalin. They were both brought up xians and in violent homes. Bill…"
Dec 4
Tom Sarbeck added a discussion to the group Single Atheists
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"Single Atheists" Needs A Spark. Will This One Suffice?

METAPHOR AHEAD! (You have been warned.)Kids reach puberty and Ma and Pa Nature replace their blood with sex hormones. Things change.Decades later Ma and Pa Nature slow or stop resupplying the hormones. Things change again.Nearing sixty, I noticed I was slowing my pursuit of women. My brother and his long-time gf invited me to sup with them and some friends and I accepted. One of their friends, a reasonably attractive woman, later needed a ride to her home, which was in the direction I would go.…See More
Nov 29
Tom Sarbeck replied to Cato Rigas's discussion 'Why religion still makes sense in the 21st century human experience'
Nov 27

Profile Information

Your Religious Status
Atheist
About Me:
Korean War veteran, was an electrician aboard a US Navy destroyer. BA in math and economics from the University of Florida. Married for 6 years to a freethinker, and for reasons too complicated to tell here we chose to remain childless. Retired from computer manufacturing. Running for election to Arizona Legislature was another education; I learned a lot but happily the incumbent won. Now living in SF Bay Area's Napa County and loving it.
Age
83-88
Relationship Status
Single
Why are you here?
In 1957 I chose agnosticism. In 2009 I came out atheist at a home for retired veterans. Many of the 1000+ residents are fallen-away xians; a very few are extremely conservative. About 70% are Dems. A few know I don't pledge allegiance to a piece of cloth; I tell them I will discuss the issue when they pledge allegiance to the Constitution. I enjoy the mental exercise I get in chats on atheist websites.
The religion you left
Catholic
Why you left your religion.
When my parents told me I was going to college because I was too lazy to get a job, I threw them and their god out of my life. Several years later I made a peace of sorts with my parents. In April of 2012, in a Toastmasters Club here, I told of my leaving Catholicism for agnosticism and 50 years later leaving agnosticism for atheism. I tell polite xians that were it not for 12 years in Catholic schools I might still believe a god exists. To xians who try to recruit me, I say religion is the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on humankind. They stop trying.
Think Atheist Travel Network Couch Availability - Are you able to host anyone now?
No
How did you hear about Think Atheist?
When TA was a contestant in the About Contest.

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At 8:51am on August 4, 2014, Ed said…

Ah yes, we've come a long way since the Prohibitionists marched down the streets garbed in black and carrying placards bemoaning the evils of spirits

At 10:15am on August 3, 2014, Ari said…

Hey there, thanks for being my friend! :) I start school on the 27th and I really don't know what to do. I'm just going for computer science because I know it'll be useful but don't know if I'd enjoy it. I hope I do so I don't have to change my major, but it's a big risk. It's pretty stressful and scary thinking about it because of the expenses. :/

At 11:34pm on August 1, 2014, Ed said…

Tom,

Napa County huh? Wine country if I'm correct. I have a small vineyard here in Arkansas. En vino veritas.

At 2:35pm on June 17, 2014, Abdulrahman Aliyu said…
That's right friend, if we can really rely on the unseenism we will be free from internet's brain damage.
At 9:22pm on May 12, 2014, Ari said…

I'm sorry that you and your brothers had to go through that.

At first I was thinking along the lines of a huge steal. Sorry, that I misunderstood. :(

At 1:27am on May 12, 2014, Ari said…

Wait a second. I compared the message you've sent here to the initial one I received by mail about my discussion and I find it funny but scary at the same time. You stole things in the past? I appreciate your advice but what was left on the e-mail is very questionable. I would find it very scary to come back to see my home a mess and I'd feel very violated. I really don't know what to think about to this. I guess what is done is done, but I wouldn't see stealing as necessary unless your life of yourself or someone you love is at high risk. :s

At 8:28pm on July 16, 2013, archaeopteryx said…

RE: "arch, your posts have shown me that you are a worthy debater" - only because I'm out of vodka.

As for Google, you seem to be more popular than I - try, http://in-his-own-image.com/2010/01/24/-in-his-own-image-.aspx

At 2:25am on June 23, 2013, Karl Hanks said…

Hi Tom!  Just joined so I only have said hello!  Hello!

At 2:32pm on June 9, 2013, Simon Paynton said…

Thanks Tom.  I'm glad to hear it.  Yes I am. 

At 11:05am on December 16, 2012, Denise M. Purtell said…

Dude, all I was saying is that religion, or the lack there of, rather - has nothing to do with some nutcase and killing children. Holy rollers have been seemingly blaming the fact of "no religion in school" is the cause. It is an observation I've made. So all I was doing was trying to make a point that it is nothing to do with that and it has everything to do with the individual idiot just being a crazy bastard. 

That is all I was saying. 

 
 
 

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