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The Consequences of Omnipotence

Started this discussion. Last reply by Simon Paynton 1 hour ago. 99 Replies

For reference, the well-known Epicurean quote:"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and…Continue

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Simon Paynton replied to Stutz's discussion 'The Consequences of Omnipotence'
""quality-of-life"   - being strong and healthy and, where capable, feeling good.  Flourishing.  ""quality of life" for a bacterium.  ...  Simple organisms don't…"
1 hour ago
Dr. Bob replied to Stutz's discussion 'The Consequences of Omnipotence'
"Hmmm...  OK, part of my confusion is over the use of "quality-of-life", which is a term that is generally reserved to sentient beings.  I don't quite know how to interpret "quality of life" for a bacterium. Another…"
6 hours ago
Simon Paynton replied to Stutz's discussion 'The Consequences of Omnipotence'
"@Dr Bob - "universal theories" - it is universal, except it's framed in a scientific way.  I think that in the same way, religion is universal too.  It's two different ways of looking at the same universal…"
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Davis Goodman replied to Stutz's discussion 'The Consequences of Omnipotence'
"James and Dr. Bob. You are both talking about an atheist position on knowledge as though it exists. It does not. An atheist is someone who rejects the statement that God exists. That is all atheists have in common and it says nothing about their…"
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Dr. Bob replied to Stutz's discussion 'The Consequences of Omnipotence'
"This is a position shared by theists. Theists do hold a 'previous commitment', I think you're right about that.  I think that's a logical position to take no matter what the discipline.  Physicists hold a 'previous…"
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James Cox replied to Stutz's discussion 'The Consequences of Omnipotence'
"I expect that the need to be " logically coherent", is the primary hang-up, between Theists and Atheists, and between different 'theist' camps. I am not so sure that Atheists, as a group, are as…"
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Ron Humphrey replied to Stutz's discussion 'The Consequences of Omnipotence'
"@Dr. Bob. the more I have considered it, the more frustrated I have gotten.  If all you can find to say is a quibble over the size of your words, then you have a mighty poor position At least be man enough to realize that you original argument…"
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Dr. Bob replied to Stutz's discussion 'The Consequences of Omnipotence'
"Ummm... OK.... I seem to be missing something from earlier in the thread? What two central principles? (As an aside, I'm also confused as to how a central principle can be explained by a theory of biology.  Wouldn't that make the…"
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Dr. Bob replied to Stutz's discussion 'The Consequences of Omnipotence'
"I think that would be helpful, and is indeed the way the development of ideas is described, at least in the sciences."
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Dr. Bob replied to Stutz's discussion 'The Consequences of Omnipotence'
"Exactly."
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Unseen replied to Stutz's discussion 'The Consequences of Omnipotence'
"Theologians often admit that God's power has limits. For example, he can't make a contradiction uncontradictory. He can't make the impossible possible. Whatever he is, they might say, he is logically coherent. Then they go on and…"
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James Cox replied to Stutz's discussion 'The Consequences of Omnipotence'
"I wonder if a likely 'random factor' would allow such an intrusion. If 'God/god' were able to act between a 'cause' and the 'cascade of outcomes', favoring one outcome over another, just maybe everything we…"
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Stutz replied to Belle Rose's discussion 'Another philosophical question...'
"Harris' response, of course, would be to ask if it's possible to measure health objectively. The definition is equally imprecise, but it doesn't stop us from studying health factors scientifically. Agreed on #2. Although, moral…"
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Simon Paynton replied to Stutz's discussion 'The Consequences of Omnipotence'
"I think it would be possible for God to intervene, not in extraordinary circumstances, but if people earn it by doing "more of the same" - putting in a lot of effort and courage to behave in a moral fashion that God approves of.  This…"
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Stutz replied to Unseen's discussion 'Dr. Oz finally getting his due'
"I think what's particularly unacceptable about Dr Oz is that he's a medical professional rather than a TV channel, and ought to be held to a higher standard. The mermaids and ghosts stuff is usually presented as a quasi-journalistic…"
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Simon Paynton replied to Stutz's discussion 'The Consequences of Omnipotence'
"lol"
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Atheist by definition. "Non-believer" by preference. Non-supernaturalist to be precise.
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Study of philosophy - God's existence has been at issue for millennia

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For the youth group kids...

Posted on March 1, 2013 at 11:36pm 1 Comment

Just for fun, here's sort of a flashback for us 90s kids (probably not applicable outside the US—or maybe?)

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jessicamisener/33-ways-you-know-you-were-a-youth-group-kid

I figure since so many of us grew up Christians, these might be amusing to remember. To be honest, I didn't get in quite this deep myself, with all the Christian-alternative fads…

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