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The moral hand, a complete and coherent ethic, applied to animal rights

Started this discussion. Last reply by Simon Paynton Apr 16, 2013. 193 Replies

The moral hand is a metaphor of five basic ethical principles, one for each finger, summarizing coherent ethic. It is the result of a ten year study of ethics and it captures my complete ethical…Continue

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Simon Paynton replied to Stijn Bruers's discussion 'The moral hand, a complete and coherent ethic, applied to animal rights'
"Yes, I appreciate someone who goes to a lot of effort and takes on all comers with a cool head.  On the other hand, smoke-screening is a waste of time around these parts. "
Apr 16, 2013
Pope Beanie replied to Stijn Bruers's discussion 'The moral hand, a complete and coherent ethic, applied to animal rights'
"FWIW, I appreciate Stijn Bruers' respectful responses and persistence against the criticisms. Wish I had more time to participate. "
Apr 16, 2013
Unseen replied to Stijn Bruers's discussion 'The moral hand, a complete and coherent ethic, applied to animal rights'
"You get to have your rape and eat it, too."
Apr 16, 2013
Simon Paynton replied to Stijn Bruers's discussion 'The moral hand, a complete and coherent ethic, applied to animal rights'
"I don't mean to be rude, but - appeal to authority is worthless. "
Apr 16, 2013
Dale Headley replied to Stijn Bruers's discussion 'The moral hand, a complete and coherent ethic, applied to animal rights'
"And here I thought the reason I had five fingers on each hand had something to do with evolution.  Little did I know they were meant to remind me of the efficacy of veganism."
Apr 16, 2013
Heather Spoonheim replied to Stijn Bruers's discussion 'The moral hand, a complete and coherent ethic, applied to animal rights'
"Plants don't matter regardless of thoughts or emotions - the central tenet is simply 'eating meat is bad' <- that's all you need to remember."
Apr 16, 2013
Pope Beanie replied to Stijn Bruers's discussion 'The moral hand, a complete and coherent ethic, applied to animal rights'
"Not to mention gazillions of bacteria and yeast pressed into involuntary servitude for the production of alcoholic beverages. And what if consumption of their waste products is against their religion..."
Apr 16, 2013
Unseen replied to Stijn Bruers's discussion 'The moral hand, a complete and coherent ethic, applied to animal rights'
"I think it's more a matter that certain creatures aren't appetizing."
Apr 16, 2013
Stijn Bruers replied to Stijn Bruers's discussion 'The moral hand, a complete and coherent ethic, applied to animal rights'
"that question has already been discussed here somewhere. In short: in that case, when plants have a well-being, we are allowed to eat plants and other sentient beings (animals), and we can agree not to eat some animals that we do not prefer to eat…"
Apr 16, 2013
kOrsan replied to Stijn Bruers's discussion 'The moral hand, a complete and coherent ethic, applied to animal rights'
"What if one day we discover plants have thoughts and emotions too? Just for the sake of argument."
Apr 16, 2013
Stijn Bruers replied to Stijn Bruers's discussion 'The moral hand, a complete and coherent ethic, applied to animal rights'
"I was not talking about species of wolves, but about the ORDER of predators. And not about species of plants, but about CLASSES of plants. (I write in capital, so I hops you see it) Stop refering to species. That is arbitrary. No, actually, we…"
Apr 16, 2013
Stijn Bruers replied to Stijn Bruers's discussion 'The moral hand, a complete and coherent ethic, applied to animal rights'
"We (almost everyone of us) give intrinsic (non-instrumental) rights to others. I want us to do so consistently. God is not needed; consistency is."
Apr 16, 2013
Stijn Bruers replied to Stijn Bruers's discussion 'The moral hand, a complete and coherent ethic, applied to animal rights'
"yipie, he compares meat with rape :-) (at least that is what some of us here would say)"
Apr 16, 2013
Ron V replied to Stijn Bruers's discussion 'The moral hand, a complete and coherent ethic, applied to animal rights'
"You have expanded the issue - malaria. Malaria is a harmful microorganism and can reasonably be considered a different issue than insects which may or may not be as harmful as malaria."
Apr 15, 2013
Ron V replied to Stijn Bruers's discussion 'The moral hand, a complete and coherent ethic, applied to animal rights'
"Yes, I have read it. Read it if you like - if not, no biggie.  It just isn't based on the fallacy you mentioned."
Apr 15, 2013
Unseen replied to Stijn Bruers's discussion 'The moral hand, a complete and coherent ethic, applied to animal rights'
"We have largely eradicated malaria in much of the world how? By killing bugs. We're going to Hell!"
Apr 15, 2013

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