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Woo Hoo!!! Newdow and FFRF Sue over "In doG We Trust" on US Money.

Started this discussion. Last reply by Andy Hoke Mar 25, 2014. 12 Replies

Here is the complaint (a lengthy legal document)I've only skimmed it but it looks like…Continue

"You are just mad at god"--Are we actually encouraging this by mistake?

Started this discussion. Last reply by MikeLong Jan 28, 2014. 276 Replies

You've all heard the claim that we aren't really atheists, we are just mad at god.  (Or you will see such things as "so and so claims to be an atheist.")Today, though I saw an argument in chat with a…Continue

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Surprise! Colorado Springs NOT in the Bible Belt.

Posted on July 27, 2013 at 4:30pm 4 Comments


Unlike what I usually do when I crosspost from my blog (where I simply paste the text in), I'll provide a TL;DR here because I want to highlight the thing I found really surprising.

In a Gallup Poll where they classified people into "very", "moderately" and "non" religious, and did this…


How uncommonly generous!

Posted on July 23, 2013 at 2:44am 9 Comments

Crossposted from here:

Every once in a while you read something that makes you seethe.

In a generous display of clemency a woman from Norway is…


Advice for Pope Francis I

Posted on March 13, 2013 at 11:30pm 8 Comments

[Crosspost from here:].  Visit letreasonreign for more caustic commentary on religion.

In most matters (with one exception I will get to), here’s my advice, one moving picture worth a thousand words:…


Open Letter to Christians #3: Freedom From Religion? Yes.

Posted on February 10, 2013 at 11:52pm 0 Comments

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Dear Christian,

Well, you've heard it said... and I imagine many of you have said it yourself, exasperated with some atheist complaint about prayer in school or a creche scene in front of a courthouse:  "It's freedom of religion not freedom from religion."

Well, actually it is both; you cannot…


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At 1:58am on August 25, 2016, Anthony Blair said…

Thank you for your post.  "If scientists ACTUALLY  thought these things happened by random chance."

If not by random chance, how do scientists think they happened? 

At 3:05pm on August 17, 2016, Peach Tiger said…
Thanks for welcoming me! :)
At 6:33am on August 3, 2016, Rick Smith said…

I remember a friend telling me that god would he;[ me through this and I said what kind of sadist is your god?  He destroys your life so you can grovel for him to help you after he kicks you in the balls.

At 11:44pm on August 2, 2016, Marino Baca said…
Thanks for the welcome Steve I'm glad to be part of the Think Atheist community
At 1:18pm on July 30, 2016, Eric Smallwood said…

Thanks for the warm welcome Steve!

At 12:11am on July 10, 2016, Chris Harrington said…

Thanks. My parents were never the religious type, and even though I tried gaining some semblance of faith back in my teens, it just never stuck...

At 11:13am on July 5, 2016, Skycomet the Fallen Angel said…

Hey! Nice to see you again! Thanks for the "Welcome back." I appreciate it. Since I was one of the "old guard" or something and had gone quiet for at least 3 years, I was doubtful that anyone would recognize me. Good to see that there are still familiar faces here!


So, now that I'm done with undergrad work, and have about 2 years until I go for a PhD, and have my confidence back, I'm back online!

At 7:48am on June 15, 2016, Andie Bourne said…

It's just a lot of smoke and mirrors. Agree!

At 11:22am on June 14, 2016, Andie Bourne said…

Which bible? There are so many different versions, who can keep track? I have read many of them. The Quran. The Torah. And eastern religions. And animist religions. And Native American religions. And sci-fi religions. With and without a god. And with many gods. (Point of irony: all religions with gods are polytheistic in my view.) And in several languages. Anyway, just not a fan of the stupidity of it all. The hypocrisy bothers me, too, but it's really the lack of logic and its global impact that I would like to see diminished. I was raised as a Christian but with the right not to be. Nobody in my family forced me to believe anything, and luckily, they are readers, and they were open to philosophical discussions about the universe. For years, I co-existed with the religious, recognizing there are "sheep" and even crazies in every group no matter the group. Secretaries. Doctors. Teachers. Bartenders. Whatever. But the older I get, the more disturbed I am at how the modern global political machine is making a huge shift, killing public education and leveraging superstition. This is not a conspiracy theory. It's just what's happening. Sample the evolution of legislation from various countries. And that's fine. I can move when necessary...and then move again. But it really seems to me that any philosophy that relies on ignorance and subjugation of the mind and spirit is a threat to civilized society and personal freedom. I don't have a personal ax to grind with any particular religion. I don't have any more bad experiences with religious people than any other group of people. I just think religion as a concept is the strongest doctrine in the world limiting personal agency, scientific and socio-economic advancement, and political stability. In the United States, political values are so wrapped up social judgment, that the original meaning of liberal and conservative - the speed with which change is implemented in a given political system - has been lost. I believe there is a humanist imperative, a morality if you will, but I don't need the threat of a hell or the promise of a heaven to conduct myself ethically with a conscience. I also believe that I should be able to be a non-believer fiscal conservative who comes from a Southern WASP family married to a mixed race man from another country trying to raise my children with conservative moral values which are based on the notion of personal safety and consideration for others not on a voyeur god. I don't give a damn about sexual orientation or the color of your skin or what your parents and great-grandparents did. Are you a decent human being? Do you lie? Do you steal? Are you selfish? Or greedy? Do you manipulate? Do you use people? Do you pray instead of do something? Do you whine and blame instead of do something? Do you read? Do you think for yourself? Can we disagree intelligently? Are you discerning? Are you thoughtful? Can you admit your mistakes? Can you change your own thoughts and behavior based on the consequences of your actions? Are you considerate? Empathetic? Do you speak for what is right and defend those who need defending? I would like to contribute to making the world a place where nobody responds to tragedies with a hastag-pray-for picture. And where there's a national media industry devoted to news not propaganda. It's a pipe dream, but we've all got to work for something. And yes, I read a lot. Everything I can get my hands on. My (main) home library contains upwards of 5000 modern and antique books, and that doesn't count ebooks and audiobooks, and a/v materials like our purchased or saved documentaries, podcasts, etc. The main area downstairs, which is also the kids' study, is arranged according to the Dewey decimal system.There is a huge section on religion, with everything from the aforementioned books to the the Book of Mormon, books on witchcraft, (as in actual spell-casting books), the teachings of Confucius, American 1980's cult scare histories

At 2:43am on June 13, 2016, microdaft. said…

Thanks, man! I'm glad I decided to sign up.


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