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Question for Evolution and Natural Selection brainiacs

Started this discussion. Last reply by Gregg RThomas May 29. 86 Replies

How valid is this model?  The situation I'm trying to describe is the way in which the biological drives to thrive, survive and reproduce have become so incredibly strong and universal within the…Continue

Christian prison chaplain 'forced to resign' for condemning homosexuality

Started this discussion. Last reply by Simon Paynton Nov 10, 2015. 15 Replies

What do you think about this? …Continue

How do you think clearly?

Started this discussion. Last reply by matt.clerke Nov 3, 2015. 40 Replies

It seems to me that everyone here is good at thinking.  I believe that thinking clearly is an essential life skill.  Truth is an essential component of morality.  Morality relates to the reality of…Continue

What does it mean to have integrity?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Simon Paynton Sep 21, 2015. 25 Replies

I'm putting together a little article about integrity.  Have a think about it.  What does integrity mean to you, and what does it mean not to have integrity? This is as far as I've got.  I think it's…Continue

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Simon Paynton replied to Unseen's discussion 'The Backfire Effect — It's why you can't change a Christian's or Trump follower's mind...and they can't change yours'
"It makes you wonder what people's actual reasons are for sticking to their beliefs come what may.  Is it a form of immaturity, that some people grow out of?  Probably many different reasons depending on the person.  I saw this,…"
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Simon Paynton replied to Unseen's discussion 'The Backfire Effect — It's why you can't change a Christian's or Trump follower's mind...and they can't change yours'
"I think it has a lot to do with how one presents one's argument.  If it's along the lines of "you're stupid for believing this, therefore you must agree with my point of view" then nobody is going to admit to a rude…"
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Simon Paynton replied to Unseen's discussion 'Where does moral responsibility come from?'
""So, what grounds do we have for controlling people, for that is what morality is all about, is it not?"  - classical theory states that we need everyone to be a good cooperator, because if they are not, society does not…"
Wednesday
Simon Paynton replied to Anthony Blair's discussion 'Atheism, evolution and morality' in the group Atheist Morality
"As far as I know, there are a lot of universals and there are local variations as well.  I think the main difference between the West and the rest of the world (maybe you could say, the tribal world) is in the dimension of individual liberty…"
Monday
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Simon Paynton replied to Anthony Blair's discussion 'Atheism, evolution and morality' in the group Atheist Morality
""The Judaeo-Christian morality taught them that being good for its own sake was not the issue, and that being good to go to heaven, and to not be bad to avoid hell WAS the issue."  - somehow, I think it teaches both, or perhaps they…"
Monday
Simon Paynton replied to Anthony Blair's discussion 'Atheism, evolution and morality' in the group Atheist Morality
"It's interesting that Michael Tomasello has found that humans are far more interested in how they are seen by others than are chimpanzees.  From this paper:  Five-Year Olds, but Not Chimpanzees, Attempt to Manage Their Reputations -…"
Monday
Simon Paynton replied to Anthony Blair's discussion 'Atheism, evolution and morality' in the group Atheist Morality
""when you compare the religions of the prison population, against the general population, you find religious people are extremely over represented..."  - surely this is largely because people "find God" in prison, as a way…"
Monday
Simon Paynton replied to Anthony Blair's discussion 'Atheism, evolution and morality' in the group Atheist Morality
""As for morality, it has nothing to do with the above in any way shape or form."  It seems to me that what Anthony Blair is stating is the religious position that if you don't believe God made the living world, you believe…"
Monday
Simon Paynton replied to Reg The Fronkey Farmer's discussion 'Sunday School July 17th 2016' in the group Sunday School
"Thanks Reg as always.  The article "Morality is not rooted in religion" is very interesting.  The original paper concludes, So in religious societies, this analysis finds that reputation is as important as "God is watching…"
Monday
Simon Paynton replied to Anthony Blair's discussion 'Atheism, evolution and morality' in the group Atheist Morality
"If you follow the religious reasoning of "why should people behave", then it seems to me there are two: 1) to please God, because God is great, mighty and good etc.  This is a good and valid reason in my opinion (if we leave aside the…"
Jul 17
Simon Paynton replied to Anthony Blair's discussion 'Atheism, evolution and morality' in the group Atheist Morality
"so what? You don't have to follow that "law" if you don't want to. Why be fair if is doesn't suit you? ... Evolution science says,"If you want to steal, do it. It means nothing. Do whatever you think you can get away…"
Jul 17
Simon Paynton replied to Anthony Blair's discussion 'Atheism, evolution and morality' in the group Atheist Morality
""why should any human being bother with something as ultimately meaningless as morality?"  - how would you feel if someone came to your door and pulled a gun on you?  You would care about right and wrong in that instance. "
Jul 17
Simon Paynton replied to Anthony Blair's discussion 'Atheism, evolution and morality' in the group Atheist Morality
""But there are many other moral decisions that make no sense at all from an evolutionary point of view. For example, nothing is more antithetical to the propagation of the species than homosexuality, so how does supporting same-sex marriage…"
Jul 17
Simon Paynton replied to Belle Rose's discussion '"You're better than that!"'
"That's brilliant Belle.  I was given a "council flat" 12 years ago and it's one of the best things that's ever happened to me.  It's almost like owning your own flat.  The only downside is a certain…"
Jul 12
Simon Paynton replied to Ralph Burks's discussion 'Are atheist a part of the collective consciousness?'
"Someone showed me this on Facebook, which I think is interesting.  "
Jul 4

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Fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil

Posted on March 18, 2014 at 7:56am 0 Comments

But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

― Genesis 2:17



If we interpret this sentence in a certain way, it tells us almost everything we need to know about personal morality.

We normally talk about the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.  Fruit = consequences.  

Good and Evil can be seen as Good and Bad ― Liking and…

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Mathematics of altruism

Posted on July 27, 2012 at 12:56pm 0 Comments

http://plus.maths.org/content/does-it-pay-be-nice-maths-altruism-part-i

Mathematical evidence that cooperation evolves naturally as a successful strategy.

This is one of the most interesting things I've read for a long time.  Don't worry, it's not too mathematical.  I recommend printing it out if you want to read it. 

I believe we need to know why these things…

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