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Question for Evolution and Natural Selection brainiacs

Started this discussion. Last reply by Gregg RThomas May 29, 2016. 86 Replies

How valid is this model?  The situation I'm trying to describe is the way in which the biological drives to thrive, survive and reproduce have become so incredibly strong and universal within the…Continue

Christian prison chaplain 'forced to resign' for condemning homosexuality

Started this discussion. Last reply by Simon Paynton Nov 10, 2015. 15 Replies

What do you think about this? …Continue

How do you think clearly?

Started this discussion. Last reply by matt.clerke Nov 3, 2015. 40 Replies

It seems to me that everyone here is good at thinking.  I believe that thinking clearly is an essential life skill.  Truth is an essential component of morality.  Morality relates to the reality of…Continue

What does it mean to have integrity?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Simon Paynton Sep 21, 2015. 25 Replies

I'm putting together a little article about integrity.  Have a think about it.  What does integrity mean to you, and what does it mean not to have integrity? This is as far as I've got.  I think it's…Continue

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Simon Paynton replied to Nathaniel's discussion 'I'm not one of you......'
"I think the corresponding question to ask is, why do most human cultures have such a downer on homosexuality, when most of the [mammal] kingdom is completely free and easy?  The only reason I can think of is marriage:  in all human…"
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Simon Paynton replied to Nathaniel's discussion 'I'm not one of you......'
"I just think that animals love sex, and they're not fussy how they get it. "
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Simon Paynton replied to Nathaniel's discussion 'I'm not one of you......'
""may cause suffering or a poor ability to function in life.",  "suicide rate" - that's a big claim there, Nathaniel.  A lot of people would put the blame for this onto society's treatment of gay people (e.g.…"
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Simon Paynton replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'
""I think religion does recognise this when it attempts to motivate people to do good, by appealing to their self-interest on some level or other."  - that's the wrong answer, in that it's not the full picture.  Plenty…"
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Simon Paynton replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'
"Living within a large population, if your cooperative partner lets you down, there is a greater possibility of finding a new partner, it is easier to reject them, than in a small population where it makes more sense to control the partner you have…"
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Simon Paynton replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'
"In other words, when someone doesn't play ball, there are, broadly, two kinds of response:  help them overcome their difficulties, and carry on;  or punish and reject them.  You could call it, love them, or hate them. …"
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Simon Paynton replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'
""Charity then demands that we help guide and teach others to behave in accord with the universal rules, because that's our obligation to our universal fellow humans."  - then that's an example of "unconditional…"
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Simon Paynton replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'
"Excluding, banishing and refusing to accept the legitimacy of gay people.  Convincing people they're going to hell for smoking weed.  There are all kinds of examples.  A great deal of what's done in the name of religion is…"
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Simon Paynton replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'
""It might be interesting to see someone try to reconcile the two"  - they can be reconciled if you look at the situation in terms of evolutionary biology.  If God's universal love = the universal pressure to thrive - this…"
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Simon Paynton replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'
"You're right - I think it's both.  The Church has a legitimacy of its own, that it's seen as sacreligious to violate, in serious terms.  But also, when people demonstrate peacefulness and forgiveness in response to violence…"
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Simon Paynton replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'
"If the Church wants to push a particular agenda, it needs to be well justified in terms of the actual benefits to society and individuals.  "Do it because we say" or "we speak for Jesus" is not good enough.  It's…"
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Simon Paynton replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'
""The legalistic judgemental side is viewed as some kind of silly backward joke by the rest of the world." - of course, this can be for purely cultural reasons, as everyone tends to see their own culture as the only correct one.  But…"
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Simon Paynton replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'
"Well, that's pretty clear cut.  It remains a dilemma:  tolerance of intolerance.  I think the issue comes down to a difference of values.  The values of the Catholic Church in Malta seem to be "we're right,…"
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Simon Paynton replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'
"Like I've always said, I think there are two directly incompatible and competing influences within the church:  true universalism, and legalistic judgement.  One obviously makes a mockery of the other.  So I agree with you in…"
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Simon Paynton replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'
"The way I read the main premise of the article is that what the alt-right lacks, and what right-wing evangelicals lose when they stop going to church, is universalism: the belief that the human race is one big happy family, rather than a bunch of…"
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Simon Paynton replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'
"“Unfortunately, church and spirituality are not high priorities for Black Lives Matter, and the ethics of love, forgiveness and reconciliation that empowered black leaders such as King and Nelson Mandela in their successful quests to win over…"
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Fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil

Posted on March 18, 2014 at 7:56am 0 Comments

But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

― Genesis 2:17



If we interpret this sentence in a certain way, it tells us almost everything we need to know about personal morality.

We normally talk about the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.  Fruit = consequences.  

Good and Evil can be seen as Good and Bad ― Liking and…

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Mathematics of altruism

Posted on July 27, 2012 at 12:56pm 0 Comments

http://plus.maths.org/content/does-it-pay-be-nice-maths-altruism-part-i

Mathematical evidence that cooperation evolves naturally as a successful strategy.

This is one of the most interesting things I've read for a long time.  Don't worry, it's not too mathematical.  I recommend printing it out if you want to read it. 

I believe we need to know why these things…

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