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Empathy exercise

Started this discussion. Last reply by Simon Paynton Jan 6, 2014. 2 Replies

I've come up with this handy empathy exercise.  I wondered if anyone has any thoughts on it or how it could be improved. …Continue

Tags: practical, empathy

New theory of atheist morality

Started this discussion. Last reply by Simon Paynton Dec 22, 2013. 36 Replies

I've developed a "new" theory of atheist morality.  I wondered if anyone would like to have a go at critiquing it.  The first two principles, 1 and 2, are the most important parts: …Continue

Tags: old, religion, new, theory, morality

Jesus died for our sins

Started this discussion. Last reply by archaeopteryx Jul 5, 2013. 325 Replies

This idea can have logic and great value even for an atheist.   Not that long ago I offered for some angry people to kick my head in, to prove a point about how men should treat women (i.e. don't…Continue

What do women want?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Simon Paynton Mar 20, 2013. 242 Replies

This is what I need to know.  I don't want to comment, only listen. Continue

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Simon Paynton replied to Unseen's discussion 'An atheist has to be a moral/ethical relativist'
"I think the whole situation would be a cause celebre, many people would be on your side, and someone would probably make a film out of it. "
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Simon Paynton replied to Unseen's discussion 'An atheist has to be a moral/ethical relativist'
"It's true that excessive self-interest leads to negative consequences and unhappiness because we damage our social standing. "
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Simon Paynton replied to Unseen's discussion 'An atheist has to be a moral/ethical relativist'
""The more proximate to their own life and loved ones the problem, the more likely their decisions are to benefit themselves and their loved ones."  - in the little clip that Mai supplied, Richard Dawkins sums up the essence of the…"
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Simon Paynton replied to Unseen's discussion 'An atheist has to be a moral/ethical relativist'
"I've never liked "the greatest good for the greatest number".  It implies that some poor souls can be left out.  It seems silly that a great philosopher contented himself with this rubbish.  It's useful for…"
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"Two of the most pressing long-term goals being saving the planet and avoiding nuclear war. "
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Simon Paynton replied to Unseen's discussion 'An atheist has to be a moral/ethical relativist'
"So there's a risk that this natural motivation can be twisted and used to justify selfishness, in the same way that Jesus' humility can be used by Christians to justify the subjugation of women. "
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Simon Paynton replied to Unseen's discussion 'An atheist has to be a moral/ethical relativist'
"Secular morality has to be ultimately motivated by self-interest, because there's no other motivation that consistently works.  But since we're such an interdependent species, and we need the goodwill and cooperation of other people…"
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Simon Paynton replied to Unseen's discussion 'An atheist has to be a moral/ethical relativist'
"Beneficial for me, that is, not the charity.  This actually shows up a clear gap in the benefit/harm system as it has been codified so far - what right do I have to favour myself over distant others?  I believe that each of us has a duty…"
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Simon Paynton replied to Unseen's discussion 'An atheist has to be a moral/ethical relativist'
"I like your analogy of a road map.  I think that's what a moral system is - a road map to show you what works (according to your values).  The moral system based on benefit / harm is unable to help in Unseen's example of the…"
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Simon Paynton replied to Unseen's discussion 'An atheist has to be a moral/ethical relativist'
"To achieve God's grace (if you translate it into atheist terms) is the object of morality.  This may seem obvious, but I think it's worth stating.  The practice of morality leads you into the good life, even if that means you…"
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Simon Paynton replied to Unseen's discussion 'An atheist has to be a moral/ethical relativist'
"In other words, to try and understand somebody is a compassionate act, for several reasons.  It implies acceptance of them as a human being and delivers some means for potentially helping them.  I think it shows the deep inescapable…"
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Simon Paynton replied to Unseen's discussion 'An atheist has to be a moral/ethical relativist'
"This is interesting, an example of empathy in action.  He defines empathy as not only understanding but wanting to help.  If I have empathy for you (figuratively speaking), if I try and understand you, then this gives you reason to trust…"
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Simon Paynton replied to Unseen's discussion 'An atheist has to be a moral/ethical relativist'
"I'm reminded, and it's worth remembering, that cooperative behaviour is the great strength of the human species.  Even people who aren't very nice usually play their part and everyone is dependent on others. "
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Simon Paynton replied to Unseen's discussion 'An atheist has to be a moral/ethical relativist'
"Everyone seems to have a different definition. "
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Fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil

Posted on March 18, 2014 at 7:56am 0 Comments

But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

― Genesis 2:17



If we interpret this sentence in a certain way, it tells us almost everything we need to know about personal morality.

We normally talk about the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.  Fruit = consequences.  

Good and Evil can be seen as Good and Bad ― Liking and…

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Mathematics of altruism

Posted on July 27, 2012 at 12:56pm 0 Comments

http://plus.maths.org/content/does-it-pay-be-nice-maths-altruism-part-i

Mathematical evidence that cooperation evolves naturally as a successful strategy.

This is one of the most interesting things I've read for a long time.  Don't worry, it's not too mathematical.  I recommend printing it out if you want to read it. 

I believe we need to know why these things…

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At 10:43am on October 8, 2014, Erock68la said…

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Thanks for accepting my friend request. Anyways, I was wondering, how did put a music playlist on your profile?

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