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Dumb it down for the believers.

Started this discussion. Last reply by Shamus Oct 7, 2009. 12 Replies

I think one of the problems with the atheist movement is we are dealing with people that many of whom are not the sharpest tools in the shed.I would like to propose a project to take all of the…Continue

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Shamus replied to Shamus's discussion 'Dumb it down for the believers.'
"Excellent points."
Oct 7, 2009
Cara Coleen replied to Shamus's discussion 'Dumb it down for the believers.'
"What helps me is knowing their "language", if you will. I have the advantage of having been fully submerged in religion and can get through to a person by speaking in a way that they relate to better. My approach is to usually avoid the…"
Oct 7, 2009
Cara Coleen replied to Shamus's discussion 'Dumb it down for the believers.'
"Sam Harris and Chris Hitchens do a pretty good job of it. Ever read God is Not Great? It's not all science-y... it's very easy to read and understand. But, you can only dumb intelligent things down so much. A lot of religious people place…"
Oct 7, 2009
Nix Manes replied to Shamus's discussion 'Dumb it down for the believers.'
"It's a nice idea, but it won't do that much good in the end, at least not toward your stated purpose, unfortunately. Belief, by defintion, is a mindset that holds something to be true/false without proof, or in direct opposition to known…"
Oct 6, 2009
Shamus replied to Shamus's discussion 'Dumb it down for the believers.'
"I agree although I wouldn't dismiss the idea that a simple bulleted format list could help make our views more accessible to these groups as well. Planting small seeds of doubt in bite sized morsels could be just one way. What would you do?"
Oct 6, 2009
Johnny replied to Shamus's discussion 'Dumb it down for the believers.'
"Yes, indoctrination over rides logic for many. Especially those who don't see personal payoff in the logic area, and at the very least consider the indoctrination a 'safe bet.'"
Oct 6, 2009
Johnny replied to Shamus's discussion 'Dumb it down for the believers.'
"I'm not saying its not worthwhile; I'm saying it a long and very hard row-to-hoe. Overall I really think you have to get more of the mid-educated masses and the media to come around to; then the rest follow."
Oct 6, 2009
elaine kilshaw replied to Shamus's discussion 'Dumb it down for the believers.'
"I have just purchased a book edited by Russ Kick, 'Everything you know about God is wrong'. Quite a interesting book.I have only started to read it but it does seem to go on a different path from the others, and puts things very simple. I…"
Oct 6, 2009
Misty: Baytheist Living! replied to Shamus's discussion 'Dumb it down for the believers.'
"I'm already working on that... in book form!"
Oct 6, 2009
Shamus replied to Shamus's discussion 'Dumb it down for the believers.'
"So you don't think it's a worthwhile pursuit to make our views more accessible? Odd."
Oct 6, 2009
Johnny replied to Shamus's discussion 'Dumb it down for the believers.'
"Besides... There are tons of very educated, very smart Christians out there. They either willing or subconsciously ignore the logic, scientific evidence, and lack of evidence for deities."
Oct 6, 2009
Johnny replied to Shamus's discussion 'Dumb it down for the believers.'
"The thing that I see though, is that those who aren't the sharpest tool are not likely to deconvert for logical reasons, no matter how simple you make them. Those people with the least education usually tend to have most of their…"
Oct 6, 2009
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Dumb it down for the believers.

I think one of the problems with the atheist movement is we are dealing with people that many of whom are not the sharpest tools in the shed.I would like to propose a project to take all of the arguments against religion and rewrite them in a way that a child could understand.I love Richard Dawkins but can you honestly imagine someone from Alabama reading let alone understanding his arguments?A simple bullet point type list I think would go a long way to making the thoughts and arguments of our…See More
Oct 6, 2009
Shamus replied to Matthew's discussion 'CNN Poll wants to know if you believe in God.'
"You may be interested to note that the mobile version of the poll is completely different yet displays the exact same results. The mobile version of the poll displays the question as this: Has worry about credit card debt kept you up at night? I am…"
Sep 22, 2009
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