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Does homosexuality make evolutionary sense?
Started this discussion. Last reply by KaraC Dec 6, 2011. 119 Replies 0 Likes
This is something I've been pondering myself recently, the leading scientific opinion is that jomosexuality is based on biology rather than being a choice, but I still wonder. I think Nature vs…Continue
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Ganapati P replied to Ryan Peterson's discussion 'Does homosexuality make evolutionary sense?'"I am a former researcher myself and know exactly what criteria are used to start an investigation.
No one would start an investigation into whether homosexual preference is biological much less genetic, out of pure academic curiosity anymore than…"
KaraC replied to Ryan Peterson's discussion 'Does homosexuality make evolutionary sense?'""The only kind of homosexuality that even deserves a scientific investigation for possible genetic determination ..."
This statement is just wrong. We just don't know whether it is genetic, a combination of genetics and environment,…"
Ganapati P replied to Ryan Peterson's discussion 'Does homosexuality make evolutionary sense?'"The only kind of homosexuality that even deserves a scientific investigation for possible genetic determination is one where they cannot reproduce because their choice of mate. Investigation into every other kind is politically motivated…"
Jewelz replied to Ryan Peterson's discussion 'Does homosexuality make evolutionary sense?'"I used the word preference because you kept implying that homosexuals would not reproduce. Though a male might prefer other males, society or the desire to reproduce often finds these males in heterosexual relationships, at least for a period of…"
Ganapati P replied to Ryan Peterson's discussion 'Does homosexuality make evolutionary sense?'"I am always amused by this genetically inherited homsexual "preference" concept. How about genetically inherited "preference" for celibacy, "likely" infertility and a "preference" for masturbation? Anyone…"
KaraC replied to Ryan Peterson's discussion 'Does homosexuality make evolutionary sense?'"Here's an interesting paper on the maternal aspect you mentioned: http://www.genetics.ucla.edu/courses/hg19/Bocklandt_et_al.pdf ;"
Jewelz replied to Ryan Peterson's discussion 'Does homosexuality make evolutionary sense?'"If the presence of a gene decreases the likelihood of the carrier having offspring, such a gene will eventually be selected out.
Once again, you're assuming people with homosexual preference are as likely to have offspring as celibate or…"
Reggie replied to Ryan Peterson's discussion 'Does homosexuality make evolutionary sense?'"First, there is no such thing as a "gay gene". At least, there isn't any specific thing we know of that could conclusively be called that and fit in with what we know about genes and how they work.
Second, gay individuals have…"
Ganapati P replied to Ryan Peterson's discussion 'Does homosexuality make evolutionary sense?'"No has yet identified a 'gay gene'. So assume its existence is jumping the gun."
Ganapati P replied to Ryan Peterson's discussion 'Does homosexuality make evolutionary sense?'"From an evolutionary standpoint the only significant things are those that affect the survival of the genes across generations. If the presence of a gene decreases the likelihood of the carrier having offspring, such a gene will eventually be…"
KaraC replied to Ryan Peterson's discussion 'Does homosexuality make evolutionary sense?'"Just tried every single link. All work except one "Sexual differentiation of the human brain in relation to gender ide..." which seems to have been taken off that server. They are just links I have collected from various article, or via…"
Jewelz replied to Ryan Peterson's discussion 'Does homosexuality make evolutionary sense?'"So from an evolutionary standpoint the existence of homosexuality is not much different from the existence of celibacy or infertility.
This opinion assumes that the desire to reproduce is not separate from sexual preference. Just as…"
Ganapati P replied to Ryan Peterson's discussion 'Does homosexuality make evolutionary sense?'"A gene for homosexuality will have the same evolutionary advantages/disadvantages as one for celibacy or infertility. Unless anyone is also looking for genetic explanations for some choosing to stay away from sex and some unable to…"
Kenny Howse replied to Ryan Peterson's discussion 'Does homosexuality make evolutionary sense?'"Love it! "The Sneaky Fucker Theory"!"
Reggie replied to Ryan Peterson's discussion 'Does homosexuality make evolutionary sense?'"Sometimes, that "purpose" is not easily perceived. You must remember that evolution deals with populations. Also, genetic traits are not typically a la carte, but rather part of a larger batch of genes. So, an inhereted…"
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