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What is the Destiny of Intelligence?

Started this discussion. Last reply by _Robert_ Nov 25, 2014. 82 Replies

Intelligent self awareness baffles me sometimes.  The universe has, literally, slammed enough atoms and molecules together for long enough that, eventually, something jump started and that led to…Continue

Tags: technology, destiny, Intelligence

What is "Rational thinking"?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Unseen Sep 9, 2014. 196 Replies

We hear the word "rational" thrown around a lot.  I like to think I am a rational person but I often find some moments where I need to struggle with what that actually means.  Sorry that this got a…Continue

Tags: evolution, Science, Agnostic, Rational

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_Robert_ replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"Yes. I think us humans could achieve the technology of immortality given enough time."
Nov 25, 2014
Pope Beanie replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"I can't respond to all points here either, but a couple seem most relevant (to me). Consciousness isn't an all or nothing, or simply defined thing. I believe there are ranges of consciousness possible among animals, and there are even…"
Nov 24, 2014
Unseen replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"Oh, I want to add that if you really want responses, you might keep your posts considerably shorter. There's no way I could say all I want to say to your post without devoting hours and hours to it, and I don't want to become one of the TA…"
Nov 24, 2014
Unseen replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"Chimps have been shown to be able to master human sign language (the type used to communicate with deaf people). Gray parrots seem to be able to not only understand and use concepts like color, shape, and number, but to form novel…"
Nov 24, 2014
Unseen replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"if a whole species became omniscient collectively, would we be able to tell them apart?  Would they be able to tell each other apart? Omniscience, like any "omni" trait has its paradoxical aspects. If someone were actually omnicient,…"
Nov 24, 2014
Lefty G replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"Hi all. I just joined the group.  It's interesting to see how the thread wanders all over the place, and also it's encouraging to see there are some intelligent people to chat with. W.r.t. the "intelligence thing" I actually…"
Nov 24, 2014
Pope Beanie replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"I wouldn't put it that way. Even animals have individual personalities."
Nov 23, 2014
Pope Beanie replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"That's a decent way to put it, but it wasn't too much power at the time. It was just enough to make tools, outsmart prey, make fires and language, and such. If we suddenly lost all our language, culture, books, civilization and so on, it…"
Nov 23, 2014
Pope Beanie replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"I'm forgetting some anatomy, but I think the simple "aha, there seems to be a connection between events here" begins simply at the level of thalamus, hypothalamus, amygdala, and hyppocampus, parts of the limbic system. E.g. in dogs…"
Nov 23, 2014
Roy Plisko replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"I have a friend who describes personality as the various imperfections in a person.I struggle with what personality actually is.   I sometimes wonder if a greater amount of knowledge would reduce the variety of personalities. That makes me…"
Nov 23, 2014
Roy Plisko replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"I think I would agree that all animal brains evolve to help the body survive.   It takes far less than our brains to accomplish this. .  though.  There are species that have been around much much longer than us with much smaller…"
Nov 23, 2014
Pope Beanie replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"I meant it in a social/cultural sense, not genetic... knowledge and skill sets per individual, and even those can be relearned/retrained. Sure, the genetics enabled it, subsequently inventing and enabling AI, but it's in culture and…"
Nov 23, 2014
Roy Plisko replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"The big bang created a universe out of nothing without being magic.  That hints that, at least at some level, it could be done artificially without being magic.Is that what you mean?"
Nov 23, 2014
Roy Plisko replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"I agree about language.  Language is a huge barrier in some cases.But what you are saying sounds a little like solipsism .How could your version of space be any different than mine if neither of us can use language to describe it in the end…"
Nov 23, 2014
Roy Plisko replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"Do you think hunches and superstition come from a similar section of the mind? "
Nov 23, 2014
Roy Plisko replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"To be honest, that doesn't sound like an impressive number in quantum terms. . .  :)   Maybe I'm visualizing them wrong?"
Nov 23, 2014

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I am agnostic about mystical concepts in the same way that science is agnostic about it's own search. I am not afraid to exercise imagination as long as it follows logical principles. I am also willing to accept logical things that cannot be proven, much the same way that string theory followers have mathematical faith in multiple dimensions and cosmologists show theoretical faith in a multiverse. . . or the big bang. . . even though these are often actually contradicted by current observations.
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