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What is the Destiny of Intelligence?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Pope Beanie 22 minutes ago. 59 Replies

Intelligent self awareness baffles me sometimes.  The universe has, literally, slammed enough atoms and molecules together for long enough that, eventually, something jump started and that led to…Continue

Tags: technology, destiny, Intelligence

What is "Rational thinking"?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Unseen Sep 9. 196 Replies

We hear the word "rational" thrown around a lot.  I like to think I am a rational person but I often find some moments where I need to struggle with what that actually means.  Sorry that this got a…Continue

Tags: evolution, Science, Agnostic, Rational

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Pope Beanie replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"I know, right?! Similar difficulties come when trying to understand micro, quantum level properties. I mean string theory? We still have a lot to learn. I think the concept of nothingness, like the concept of infinity don't really make a lot of…"
22 minutes ago
Pope Beanie replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"I can pretty much agree with that. But meanwhile, we'll still keep coming up with lots and lots of stuff more significant to us than ghosts."
39 minutes ago
Pope Beanie replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"Maybe for now I should just include links to a couple other previous writings. (There are also lots of other related writings, not written by me.) Will AI end our species? Uploadable Me: Ethical Dilemma? "
57 minutes ago
Pope Beanie replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"I felt that way until understanding more about evolution and biology. It's more accurate to say that the brain evolved to help the body survive. This is important because even our minds have to be predicated on those terms. Embedded/embodied…"
1 hour ago
Unseen replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"I suppose if one is omniscient, one would know how to create a universe using no basic materials whatsoever without it being magic. "
2 hours ago
Roy Plisko replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"Well. . . atoms are supposed to be immortal.  So. . . do you really know if you are joking?  Lol."
2 hours ago
Roy Plisko replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"The definition of universe gets sticky to me sometimes.   Unseen points out that if there was another big bang, it would be in it's own space not ours. I can relate to this, but I wonder what that really means.   If there is no grid…"
2 hours ago
Roy Plisko replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"But. .  the scientific method cannot reach past the horizon of the universe.   It may as well be ghost hunting. That means there is only ever going to be a group of best guesses. . .which is certainly less like traditional mythology, but…"
2 hours ago
Roy Plisko replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"Maybe it does.  When you said "field" I was thinking of the "quantum field" which is much closer to matter than a bubble which expands billions of light years ahead of matter so that it can expand.  The expansion idea…"
2 hours ago
Roy Plisko replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"I sometimes entertain that sort of idea.   I wonder about intelligence carrying on for trillions of years, reaching a critical mass where it has gained as much as it possibly can in the universe, becoming a prisoner of knowing everything and…"
2 hours ago
Roy Plisko replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"I think we kind of get into mind/body confusions on that issue for sure.What is a body?  I've heard it called a vessel for the mind to get around with which makes some sense since the mind seems to be the dominant force.  It is…"
2 hours ago
Pope Beanie replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"Right on again, except when given more ideas and time. Mythology by nature doesn't change; it can morph into static dogma; but scientific method builds skepticism and self-correction into the process, more like an adaptable, dynamic dogma.…"
7 hours ago
Unseen replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"Happens to me occasionally as well. LOL"
7 hours ago
Unseen replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"The current flavor of the decade is the expansion theory, where "nothing" expanded faster than light into a giant sort of bubble that matter could exist inside of. That sounds an awful lot like what I said, doesn't it? Just substitute…"
7 hours ago
Pope Beanie replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"Yes, hunches are major mothers of discovery, creativity, and behavioral adaptation. Hunches, intuition, and recognition of unexpected results (e.g. "surprise") help us learn. And with the added evolution of prefrontal lobes, add capability…"
7 hours ago
Pope Beanie replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"That could be interesting. I'll bet they wouldn't recognize themselves in a video unless they first had a lot of mirror time. Concepts of self vs others are shaped by life experience."
8 hours ago

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