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What is "Rational thinking"?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Unseen Sep 9. 196 Replies

We hear the word "rational" thrown around a lot.  I like to think I am a rational person but I often find some moments where I need to struggle with what that actually means.  Sorry that this got a…Continue

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Unseen replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is "Rational thinking"?'
Sep 9
Unseen replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is "Rational thinking"?'
"Did I dispute that the theory that the sun is larger than the moon is falsifiable? No. What I did say is this: While the theory that the Sun is larger than our moon is falsifiable through various measurements, the notion that the Sun weighs more…"
Sep 6
Davis Goodman replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is "Rational thinking"?'
"Indeed you've caught me red handed. I've been so used to dealing with cases where tests of theories result in either negation or confirmation that I got caught up in it. Yes we can drop the line about confirmation. The theory that the sun…"
Sep 6
Unseen replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is "Rational thinking"?'
"A theory is falsifiable if one can devise a test which more or less could confirm the theory or prove it wrong. Drop the "confirm the theory or" and you have it. Falsifiability concerns whether scientific propositions make sense.…"
Sep 5
Unseen replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is "Rational thinking"?'
"Generally speaking, "the establishment" is not how one talks about mainstream science. It is so heavy with negative connotations that it's argumentative from the get go.It has political connotations, whereas science tries to stick…"
Sep 5
Davis Goodman replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is "Rational thinking"?'
"If you are asking me personally then then the theory of black holes sits well within the domain of science, string theory and paralel universes (from what little I know of it) float just outside at the outer edges and speculation about life on other…"
Sep 5
Roy Plisko replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is "Rational thinking"?'
"I agree that it is a bold theory.I thought my speculations about intelligence and time could also be thought provoking.This is why I am wondering where the lines are drawn.  The original question was not about scientific fact and certainties.…"
Sep 5
Davis Goodman replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is "Rational thinking"?'
"Philosophers of science struggle with it a lot. Popper was weary of calling evolution falsifiable and in some sense I agree. This is why many philosophers of science and scientists reject the importance of a rigid theory of the delimitation of…"
Sep 5
Roy Plisko replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is "Rational thinking"?'
"Are these 30 points the falsification of the big bang theory?  If not, why not?http://metaresearch.org/cosmology/BB-top-30.asp"
Sep 5
Roy Plisko replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is "Rational thinking"?'
"A theory is falsifiable if one can devise a test which more or less could confirm the theory or prove it wrong.I think Unseen has argued that the math of theories is inherently verified because of the nature of math.There are some things, like…"
Sep 5
Roy Plisko replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is "Rational thinking"?'
"Is the theory of black holes falsifiable?I'm not sure at this point.  They said nothing could escape from a black hole.  Then they saw jets coming out of them.  Was that falsification?  Then Hawking came up with the idea…"
Sep 5
Davis Goodman replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is "Rational thinking"?'
"A theory is falsifiable if one can devise a test which more or less could confirm the theory or prove it wrong. That's all. It's about the testability...not the actual results or certainty we have in the theory or even its…"
Sep 5
Roy Plisko replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is "Rational thinking"?'
"Off the top of my head:The "anthropic principle" is evidence.   The theory of evolution is evidence.  The discovery of exo planets is evidence.  The discovery of extremophiles is evidence.  On top of that, the number of…"
Sep 5
Roy Plisko replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is "Rational thinking"?'
"I think I walked myself into a big field of weeds here.  I've been reading the rebuttals of the EU theory and it is another interesting read. . .  I'm honestly feeling really under qualified to debate either side the more I…"
Sep 5
Unseen replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is "Rational thinking"?'
"Certain things are immune to fasification. Facts, for example. If it's a fact it's true and truth is immune to falsification. If you are asserting a fact, it's true by the meaning of "fact." If there's any doubt, then…"
Sep 3
Gregg R Thomas replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is "Rational thinking"?'
"@Davis G.: What is falsifiable? "
Sep 3

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I am agnostic about mystical concepts in the same way that science is agnostic about it's own search. I am not afraid to exercise imagination as long as it follows logical principles. I am also willing to accept logical things that cannot be proven, much the same way that string theory followers have mathematical faith in multiple dimensions and cosmologists show theoretical faith in a multiverse. . . or the big bang. . . even though these are often actually contradicted by current observations.
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