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behavior and evolutions

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Behaviorism and determinism

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Raised catholic,and many more religions and logic told me they were all "full of it".Love nature, live in the country,with my two dogs.
Why are you here?
Even though it appears useless to argue with about 90% of the true believers, I like to see that there is at least a few of us more or less sane people around yet.
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Why you left your religion.
, they are all just business under the various belief systems

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More behaviorism and determinism

Posted on June 23, 2009 at 4:34pm 30 Comments

Determinism and behaviorism

This may take a bit more than a quicky.. I will try to keep it simple at first.

A behavior can only be affected in three ways. And to some extent, a fourth way...As a way of demonstrating that something really did happen, we use rate of responding for starters. You must admit if the rate goes up or down, something has happened. When a person makes a response to whatever, the first thing that might happen is positive reinforcement of the… Continue

Choosing and free will

Posted on June 1, 2009 at 7:27pm 25 Comments

We are all determinists even if we unaware of it. We do not expect the car to start by itself. We do not expect the grass to cut itself. We do not expect the food to make its way to our mouth without using a spoon or fork. We do not expect the window to open or close without our taking some action. I could go on and on, but I think you get the point.

When it comes to other behaviors, we expect them to happen by “magic”, or “free will’.. No cause. This really defiles logic if one… Continue

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At 2:08am on April 28, 2010, Wesley gave Roger Tholen a gift
Because you are doing a fine job!
At 12:53pm on July 17, 2009, Dave G said…
Roger, I think you'll find this interesting:
At 12:22am on July 5, 2009, Reggie said…
A fellow dog lover always has a special place in my heart. Besides, we have to stick together against all those cat lovers! Thanks for accepting my friendship request.
At 5:28pm on June 26, 2009, flo Sayer said…
You are one of the few people who make a little sense. To me its obvious that things are determined by past events. I can't go into as much detail as you do, but as I think about it, it makes a great deal of sense.
At 11:33am on June 26, 2009, Reggie said…
I was being a little playful. I didn't think you meant that literally. Perhaps I don't understand free will and determinism as denuvian states below. It is not something I have really delved into.
At 4:28pm on May 25, 2009, Nick said…
Most people don't understand free will in relation to determinism. They just define free will as freedom from physical or social coercion.
At 9:02pm on May 23, 2009, Chelsea said…
Welcome to Think Atheist, Roger!
At 4:57pm on April 28, 2009, Nick said…
Roger, does it frustrate you because it seems religious people have built a system to reward themselves for stupid reasoning?

That's the Skinner aspect, correct?


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