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The modal ontological argument

Started this discussion. Last reply by fester60613 Dec 27, 2011. 85 Replies

Well i have been having a discussion with a theist and he has just brought up the modal ontological argument.  I have now  done some research on modal logic and have sites marked to further educate…Continue

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Rocky john replied to Adam's discussion 'Do Men have the right to a "financial abortion"'
"Unseen. Just to clarify . I feel you are looking at morality back to front. As yes we can define a moral system into existence without   consideration of its  purpose. But then it becomes little more than abstract nonsense."…"
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Rocky john replied to Adam's discussion 'Do Men have the right to a "financial abortion"'
"Unseen- i was not talking about  what  morality is  but instead of  what use is morality. I honestly dont see how you can say morality is not  a system of social engineering as our moral ability has evolved specifically as…"
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Rocky john replied to Adam's discussion 'Do Men have the right to a "financial abortion"'
"Tom- lets swap the issue slightly to womans rights in the middle east . Should we not try and put any pressure at all on them to embrace woman as being equal to men because it is only a "dream" and the reality is they are often treated…"
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Rocky john replied to Adam's discussion 'Do Men have the right to a "financial abortion"'
"Unseen. What is morality if not a tool to create the type of society we think is best? Now i know neither one of us wants a society where abortions are illegal. But then i would also rather see a society where people understood about safe sex and…"
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Rocky john replied to Adam's discussion 'Do Men have the right to a "financial abortion"'
""How many single teenage fathers with sole responsibility for the child do you know of?" Maybe it  in some part due to how virtually impossible it is for the father to win a custody battle for a child. Why are you concentrating…"
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Rocky john replied to Adam's discussion 'Do Men have the right to a "financial abortion"'
"But she does not need hes consent to abort the child. Why can't woman just take responsibility for their actions?"
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Rocky john replied to Mercedes's discussion 'Why do atheists ask for so much proof to believe in God?'
"I think that would be youtube. Home to propagande of every type you can imagine. And some you would rather not."
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Rocky john replied to Adam's discussion 'Do Men have the right to a "financial abortion"'
"this makes the whole law fair as he has no say over her decision to keep it  to brith or not. But at birth it is no longer part of her body so he should have a similiar right then ."
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Rocky john replied to Adam's discussion 'Do Men have the right to a "financial abortion"'
"I was thinking of throwing out the idea that since  the male rightfully has no real say if the woman decides to keep the child or no, it is then only fair that the male can then decide that the child should be put up for adoption once it is…"
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Rocky john replied to Adam's discussion 'Do Men have the right to a "financial abortion"'
"can causing harm to others that is easily preventable ever be good?"
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Rocky john replied to Adam's discussion 'Do Men have the right to a "financial abortion"'
"Does that which effects me have absolutely no effect on how i effect others?"
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Rocky john replied to Adam's discussion 'Do Men have the right to a "financial abortion"'
""then only harm to herself is what the woman has to consider" this would only be true if she lived in a vacuum. There is such a thing as a knock on effect. Is the person who becomes addicted to heroine and ends up tearing their family…"
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Rocky john replied to Adam's discussion 'Do Men have the right to a "financial abortion"'
"If causing harm to yourself and others ,when it is so easy to avoid , is not somewhat immoral what is? Now forcing them to have an unwanted child would likely  be far more immoral but that only makes the other choice the lesser of two evils. "
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Rocky john replied to Adam's discussion 'Do Men have the right to a "financial abortion"'
"I might go as far as to say it is immoral. Being sexually active and using abortion as thefirst line of birth control ismostlikely psychologically harmful to the woman andlikely any family/friend support she has. Ifnothing else having her pop in a…"
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Rocky john replied to Adam's discussion 'Do Men have the right to a "financial abortion"'
"Bella you did not answer my question. If the object of empowering woman is to bring about fairness between the sexes then do you consider it fair that not only does the male have no choice over whether the female keeps the child or not but that he…"
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Rocky john replied to Adam's discussion 'Do Men have the right to a "financial abortion"'
"Is the object of empowering woman to bring fairness between the sexes or in giving woman the upper hand over men?"
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Well at about the age of 15 or so i had a few minor questions regarding my religion and the priests could not answer them to my satisfaction. so i decided to sit dow and read the bible to see gods own word for myself. A few chapters in i already began to have doubts, and a few days later when i had finished reading that damned book i realised i only had 2 possible options that was to either believe what i had read and therefor become a malthiest, or to throw the whole lot out and become an atheist
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The most important picture ever taken

Posted on August 3, 2011 at 2:53pm 6 Comments

Yesterday while browsing the net i came across a picture which left me almost speechless and in a state of awe. It was taken back in 2004 when they pointed the hubble  telescope at an apparently empty piece of space ,smaller than a 1 mm-by-1 mm square of paper held 1 meter away, over  a period of  4months. And what they saw in that insignificantly  tiny  portion of empty sky was breath taking, over 10 000 galaxies, each on containing hundreds of billions of stars. every single point  and…

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At 2:46pm on August 3, 2011, Mallory said…
The picture you posted has been a source of humility and passion for me ever since I found it years go. I have tried time and again to explain the sheer magnitude of what it represents, with little luck. I have what most would consider a 'spiritual' experience when I sit and think about what that picture represents. Thank you for sharing it; I haven't looked at it in awhile. :)
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