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Receivers Are Believers

Started this discussion. Last reply by Kathryn Bennett Dec 30, 2010. 11 Replies

I have an ongoing debate with a "godoholic" co-worker.  I have tried in vain to be the voice of reason...but I'm evidently not finding the right words or phrasing. She is firmly convinced that "St.…Continue

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Atheists, can you prove The BIBLE is false?

"You can't prove the non-existence of anything.  Prove to me that Bigfoot doesn't exist. Prove to me that unicorns don't exist.  See what I mean? What we CAN point to is the inaccuracies and mistakes of the bible, which…"
Feb 3, 2012
Richard Jonson replied to Justine Robinson's discussion 'What do you think of stories about people dieing going to heaven and coming back to life?'
"What I find hilarious is:  these godoholics are so quick to believe this kid about going to heaven and meeting jesus.....yet they laugh off someone who claims to have been abducted by aliens.   People believe what they WANT to believe."
Mar 21, 2011
Kathryn Bennett replied to Richard Jonson's discussion 'Receivers Are Believers'
"It seems to me that using this saint thing makes it easier to have confirmation bias. The rules, the rituals, figuring out which is the right saint to pray to, all allow for humans to mess up. Asking for little things that are likely to happen on…"
Dec 30, 2010
Richard Jonson replied to Richard Jonson's discussion 'Receivers Are Believers'
"Right on, Dustin....   "Properly read, the bible is the most potent force for Atheism ever conceived. – Isaac Asimov"
Dec 29, 2010
Dustin replied to Richard Jonson's discussion 'Receivers Are Believers'
"Is it the Atheists that have done more biblical homework - Or is it the ones who have done more biblical homework that leads one to Atheism ....    Hmmm ... But what would be more fun is to come up with rationalizations as to why those…"
Dec 29, 2010
Richard Jonson replied to Richard Jonson's discussion 'Receivers Are Believers'
"Good one!   I love how it seems that most atheists have done more biblical homework than most Christians."
Dec 29, 2010
Allen Sneed replied to Richard Jonson's discussion 'Receivers Are Believers'
"Try this on her:   According to Corinthians 15:3-8, Jesus appeared to more than 500 people after his death, “For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the…"
Dec 29, 2010
Richard Jonson replied to Richard Jonson's discussion 'Receivers Are Believers'
"It is staggering to see the depths to which people will go to rationalize away their ridiculous beliefs.   I don't bring politics into work....but for me, religion is another matter.  It isn't just a simple "agree to…"
Dec 29, 2010
Godless Girl replied to Richard Jonson's discussion 'Receivers Are Believers'
"To be honest, I don't think you'll convince her. If she's not being reasonable, you cannot force her to become that way. Just let it go, and chalk it up to the silly superstitions of the religious."
Dec 29, 2010
Jean Marie replied to Richard Jonson's discussion 'Receivers Are Believers'
"i know, i was very little kid in this, and i remember thinking the same thing....like, "Wait, St Christopher did NOT protect Stephen!!!"    there was also a round of the usual, "Well, god must have wanted Stephen more than…"
Dec 29, 2010
Jean Marie replied to Richard Jonson's discussion 'Receivers Are Believers'
"so true, so true!!  And there are many rituals involved, too, statues with candles to burn in votives at the foot of the statue, certain numbers of certain prayers must be chanted to get their wish, etc.  If you count wrong, it might not…"
Dec 29, 2010
Jean Marie replied to Richard Jonson's discussion 'Receivers Are Believers'
"i've told this story before, but, my devoutly catholic fam all of them, all of them, have St Christopher, the patron saint of travellors, statues or medallions in their cars.  All of them.   When i was veyr young, my cousin, Stephen,…"
Dec 29, 2010
Jean Marie replied to Richard Jonson's discussion 'Receivers Are Believers'
"ah, she is a catholic.  As a recovering catholic, i recognize the whole "Pray to the Saints" thing.  We have saints for evvvvvvverything.  Saints for sore throats, lost items, gardening, music, lost causes, travellers, i…"
Dec 29, 2010
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Receivers Are Believers

I have an ongoing debate with a "godoholic" co-worker.  I have tried in vain to be the voice of reason...but I'm evidently not finding the right words or phrasing. She is firmly convinced that "St. Anthony" looks out for her when it come to trivial matters such as lost keys or jewelry.  She swears that if you pray hard enough, St. Anthony will guide you to its hidden location.  "Believers are receivers", she proclaims. My godoholic friend fails to see the power of coincidence at work…See More
Dec 29, 2010
Richard Jonson replied to Christopher England's discussion 'The "What if you're wrong?" answer'
"I simply say, "What if YOU'RE wrong?" Why do people assume it's either THEIR god or nothing? What if THEY'RE wrong about WHICH god exists? What makes the Judeo-Christian god special? (Other than it's THEIR god.) All the…"
Dec 6, 2010
Richard Jonson replied to Adrian Quantum's discussion 'Are you only atheist or also antitheist?'
"I think as a responsible atheist, you HAVE to be "anti-theist". To paraphrase a quote the 'godoholics" like to use often, "All that is necessary for evil to exist is for good people to do nothing." We can no longer…"
Nov 30, 2010

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