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Started this discussion. Last reply by Rich Orwell May 18, 2012. 24 Replies

I wonder how much and often you like to debate atheism/theism.  Do you seek it out or avoid it?  Are you "naughty or nice" (Santa Claus reference) about it?  Do you operate from "Well, isn't it…Continue

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Rich Orwell replied to Rich Orwell's discussion 'Debating'
"Thank you all for your good advice.  I think I'll go for a gentle Socratic dialog, agreeing with them first on common ground issues.  For Christians, I'd like to start with introducing them to the notion of inculcation ("If…"
May 18, 2012
Andrew Goldman replied to Rich Orwell's discussion 'Debating'
"I enjoy a good, well thought out debate, however that is rare on the part of the theist. I try to always be considerate and openminded, but it definatly isnt easy. I like the technique of getting them to agree that the bible is law, and then bust…"
May 15, 2012
Wallace Beauregard replied to Rich Orwell's discussion 'Debating'
"In the past I have debated several topics but not atheism. The only reason for that is I am within a couple of years of coming to my senses. My approach has always been to be somewhat diplomatic. I believe atheism or agnosticism or any topic you…"
May 14, 2012
Becca replied to Rich Orwell's discussion 'Debating'
"I don't typically debate atheism or theism anymore. Theism is clearly absurd but trying to convince a theist of that is like trying to nail jelly to the wall. You won't get anywhere but frustrated and you'll leave a big mess behind.…"
May 13, 2012
the Jumping Atheist replied to Rich Orwell's discussion 'Debating'
"I spend what is probably considered an un-heathy amount of time reading the bible and anything Bart Ehram has written. Knowing the bible better than Christians, if a debate or discussion on religion ever arises, is aways…"
May 13, 2012
Dale Headley replied to Rich Orwell's discussion 'Debating'
"   I don't seek out debate with people who don't initiate it. What they believe is no business of mine.  But I relish any opportunity to argue energetically with anyone who tries to convert me.  Jehovah's Witnesses…"
May 13, 2012
Obfuskation replied to Rich Orwell's discussion 'Debating'
"I've found that the best thing to read if you're going to have conversations with theists is the bible itself.  The best way to have an impact with them is to have an obviously more thorough knowledge of it's contents.  It…"
May 13, 2012
Cheryl Feather replied to Rich Orwell's discussion 'Debating'
"I like #8! I tend to use: "Jesus Christ jumping up and down on a peanut butter and jelly sandwich!" or whatever comes to mind that he should be jumping up and down on at the time....LOL"
May 13, 2012
Eric Diaz replied to Rich Orwell's discussion 'Debating'
"I tend to avoid it if the person is too religious. If I sense the person is open minded I will give it a try. I noticed if the goal is persuasion then is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to be very respectful even to the most idiotic statements, and shut…"
May 12, 2012
Unseen replied to Rich Orwell's discussion 'Debating'
"All too often, you're just giving them a chance to prove their faith, that their faith is strong enough to withstand evidence. And let's face it: the stronger the onslaught they withstand, the stronger their faith. I feel almost everyone…"
May 12, 2012
Ron V replied to Rich Orwell's discussion 'Debating'
"I try to avoid it in person.  On blogs, where my identity is not publicized, I go for the jugular."
May 12, 2012
Raptor Jesus replied to Rich Orwell's discussion 'Debating'
"Well, I'm not the argumentative type but I have always imagined if I were debating with a proselytizing Xian, Jehovah's Witness, etc I would propose that if they were to disprove the existence of Zeus, Krishna, Allah, Odin and the many…"
May 12, 2012
Tom Holm replied to Rich Orwell's discussion 'Debating'
"Lol this is epic I will try this"
May 12, 2012
Kirstyn Wood replied to Rich Orwell's discussion 'Debating'
"To answer your question, Rich, I love to wait until people have expressed their opinions as bigoted and ignorant as they are, and then ask them politely to explain how their faith chooses to explain a whole realm of evils that can be attributed to…"
May 12, 2012
Kirstyn Wood replied to Rich Orwell's discussion 'Debating'
"I absolutely agree with you Ofuskation. Unfortunately when dealing with those who are irrational, it is impossible to 'win', one can only gain the upper hand by staying in control. The calm deployment of intelligence that you speak of is…"
May 12, 2012
Kyle Bates replied to Rich Orwell's discussion 'Debating'
"I wouldn't say that I go out and seek debate on the subject although I do assert my opinion/position when it is socially acceptable to do so. I also spend a considerable amount of time in the Religion and Spirituality section on Yahoo!…"
May 12, 2012

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I used to be a smart computer guy (since 1968). And then I became a smart stand-up comedian (2009). I'm not smart anymore and pretty soon I won't be here at all (early onset Alzheimer's). I can't remember them, but I know I wrote some *great* atheism jokes -- they're on my computer. I just don't know where. Can I get back to you on this?
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