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Does Secularism make things worse?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Fred Hampton 3 hours ago. 44 Replies

Often here at TA an argument is made that if only we dumped all religion and everyone was secular without belief in doG, we would all be farting petunias.  Less war, less viciousness, evolution leads…Continue

Tags: history, politics, religion

It's hard to know where to start

Started this discussion. Last reply by Simon Paynton Jan 21. 53 Replies

Each day's news here in the U.S. becomes a bit more appalling.Today, I wake to discover that our President-Elect has formed a new government commission on vaccine safety, appointing rabidly anti-vax…Continue

I find this very disturbing... (genetics and alt-right)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Mike Lansing Jan 28. 8 Replies

This article from The Atlantic ruined my day yesterday.…Continue

Tags: education, science, genetics, alt-right

Are all men (and women) created equal?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Unseen Sep 16, 2016. 115 Replies

I'm curious how people think of this.Jefferson proposed that it is a self-evident Truth that "all men are created equal" .  Let's leave aside the "created" bit.Belief in this "truth" and its…Continue

Tags: myths, assumptions, equality, rights

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Fred Hampton replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'
"No, secularism makes things better, just ask Karl Marx."
3 hours ago
TJ replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'
"In the context of the OP though, the issue is essentially the religious seeming to resent secular views. More to the point, "secular views" seem to revolve around more tolerance of concepts that are typically bible specific in nature. IE:…"
23 hours ago
Simon Paynton replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'
"Living within a large population, if your cooperative partner lets you down, there is a greater possibility of finding a new partner, it is easier to reject them, than in a small population where it makes more sense to control the partner you have…"
23 hours ago
Simon Paynton replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'
"In other words, when someone doesn't play ball, there are, broadly, two kinds of response:  help them overcome their difficulties, and carry on;  or punish and reject them.  You could call it, love them, or hate them. …"
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Simon Mathews replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'
"I'm very sad to hear that. I think the Greeks have the right idea. Everyone attends church so they can have a good catch up and a gossip. The rest of the time they pay attention to whichever Christian dictates they feel are appropriate (in…"
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Reg The Fronkey Farmer replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'
"@Dr. Bob. There is no reason a theist cannot be a Secularist. It does not make one any less religious. Atheist Ireland is a pressure group and one of our aims is bring about a separation of Church and State while at the same time allowing people of…"
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Simon Paynton replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'
""Charity then demands that we help guide and teach others to behave in accord with the universal rules, because that's our obligation to our universal fellow humans."  - then that's an example of "unconditional…"
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Dr. Bob replied to Nathaniel's discussion 'I'm not one of you......'
"Criminal justice is the responsibility of the secular state, isn't it?  I'm wondering how the Vatican Swiss Guard in their clown costumes and poleaxes are protecting people from justice when the secular authorities have assault…"
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Dr. Bob replied to Nathaniel's discussion 'I'm not one of you......'
"HAHAHAHAHA.  That's funny. Though I do get depressed at the extent to which the population is innumerate.  "
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Dr. Bob replied to Nathaniel's discussion 'I'm not one of you......'
"Not to interrupt your alternative facts with, you know, actual data but... Just did a search through my copy of the New American Bible for "hell".  Got lots of sHELLfish.  Got a bunch of HELLenism from the annotations.  Not…"
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Simon Paynton replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'
"Excluding, banishing and refusing to accept the legitimacy of gay people.  Convincing people they're going to hell for smoking weed.  There are all kinds of examples.  A great deal of what's done in the name of religion is…"
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Dr. Bob replied to Nathaniel's discussion 'I'm not one of you......'
"Yes, as a physicist I really crave good bullshit stories to answer all my questions. ;-) Who needs research?"
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Simon Paynton replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'
""It might be interesting to see someone try to reconcile the two"  - they can be reconciled if you look at the situation in terms of evolutionary biology.  If God's universal love = the universal pressure to thrive - this…"
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Dr. Bob replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'
"Come now.  That's an awfully broad brush for you.   Can you give me one example of "religious people" doing "harm" in the way you are talking about? The religious ideas that have persisted are the ones that have…"
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Dr. Bob replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'
"Hmmmm... It may well be that we theists are ignorant about secularism.  That is partly because we come from a different way of thinking, certainly.  I think it's also partly because there isn't one reliable version or definition…"
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Simon Paynton replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'
"You're right - I think it's both.  The Church has a legitimacy of its own, that it's seen as sacreligious to violate, in serious terms.  But also, when people demonstrate peacefulness and forgiveness in response to violence…"
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Standing Fast for Education

Posted on April 4, 2015 at 3:30pm 19 Comments

Once again this past week we have news of students and colleagues who have become the target of violence by the forces of rabid tribal ignorance. 

Garissa University College on the plains of Kenya is a small but growing school.  It was formerly a "normal" school, which is the old fashioned name for a teachers' college - a place where bright and service-minded young people could prepare to carry the light of knowledge to children and teens in towns and villages across the area.   More…

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Atheist Admires Pope Francis. So what?

Posted on August 13, 2013 at 2:00pm 13 Comments

I ran across this piece by a on a blog maintained by the order.  I thought the piece was quite good, actually, and reflects my own views in many ways, and the comments the author makes both to Catholics and indirectly about atheists might be of interest to those here. 

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It’s not uncommon for my various social newsfeeds to look like an avalanche of news about Pope Francis; it’s an occupational hazard of (i) being a Jesuit and (ii) knowing a lot of Catholics.…

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Religion as Idolatry: A Theist's Perspective

Posted on May 10, 2013 at 7:22pm 13 Comments

This past week, in a small corner of the news there was information about a bombing of a Church in a small community near Arusha, Tanzania.  Several locals along with a handful of Saudi nationals have been arrested as responsible.  The target apparently was the Archbishop of Arusha, a man whom I know personally and whose installation I attended some years back in Tanzania.  Many innocent people were hurt, who were just gathered as a community to dedicate a new church building they had…

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At 1:56pm on April 8, 2015, Colleen Jousma said…

Are you really a doctor? :D 

At 6:06pm on November 21, 2014, Reg The Fronkey Farmer said…

Yes, I am often more annoyed with the anti-science brigade than the religious fundies. I suppose there is a high correlation between them though. I will post this link in my next Sunday school page.

No bird though, just a good Indian curry!!

At 5:02pm on November 17, 2014, Reg The Fronkey Farmer said…

Hi Bob, I found that post here...

At 7:02pm on November 15, 2014, Reg The Fronkey Farmer said…

Hi Bob, I get the travel bit...I am about to fly to the US for Thanksgiving. I have a place in Florida and family living in Atlanta so we will meet up on the beach......I can't find the blog I wrote but will search again for it. I know I did not delete it. I have helped many fundamentalists and born again to get back on track (or on track for the first time). I am almost "religious" about it :-)

At 7:07pm on October 11, 2013, Cesar Deicide said…

Moderation? Seriously?

At 7:06pm on October 11, 2013, Cesar Deicide said…

What happened to the blog post?!

At 6:03pm on August 13, 2013, Unseen said…

Hello, Dr. Bob. Nice to meet you.

At 4:11pm on March 16, 2013, Sagacious Hawk said…

It's refreshing to see a believer on these forums approach with civil, polite, and intelligent discourse even when not treated with such. You, sir, have run our virtual gauntlet and gained my respect. I do hope you stick around and continue to contribute. I sometimes worry that without dissenting opinions and viewpoints, we'll just keep reinforcing our own, and while some of us try to keep a level head and an open mind, we can't articulate a different viewpoint as well as if it was actually ours.

That said, I know it can be a daunting task, but I look forward to seeing what you have to say in the future.

 
 
 

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