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Does Secularism make things worse?
Started this discussion. Last reply by Simon Paynton Apr 7, 2017. 72 Replies 1 Like
Often here at TA an argument is made that if only we dumped all religion and everyone was secular without belief in doG, we would all be farting petunias. Less war, less viciousness, evolution leads…Continue
It's hard to know where to start
Started this discussion. Last reply by Simon Paynton Jan 21, 2017. 53 Replies 2 Likes
Each day's news here in the U.S. becomes a bit more appalling.Today, I wake to discover that our President-Elect has formed a new government commission on vaccine safety, appointing rabidly anti-vax…Continue
I find this very disturbing... (genetics and alt-right)
Started this discussion. Last reply by Mike Lansing Jan 28, 2017. 8 Replies 0 Likes
This article from The Atlantic ruined my day yesterday.…Continue
Are all men (and women) created equal?
Started this discussion. Last reply by Unseen Sep 16, 2016. 115 Replies 1 Like
I'm curious how people think of this.Jefferson proposed that it is a self-evident Truth that "all men are created equal" . Let's leave aside the "created" bit.Belief in this "truth" and its…Continue
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Fred Hampton replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'"When the Secular Society attacks bourgeois politics as hard as they attack religion, they will have arrived--oh wait, Karl Marx et all have already done that.
There is no possibility of an ' inclusive society' in a CLASS system."
Davis Goodman replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'"Hahaha. Other people do bad stuff too. Nobody is perfect! So why are you picking on us poor victims? What did the Catholic church ever do to anyone? You just want to be a hater! Spreading your God-hate. Why don't you focus on all the horrible…"
Dr. Bob replied to Nathaniel's discussion 'I'm not one of you......'"Well, I'll agree that was long and hard to read, but he did also reference archaeological evidence as well as just modern fact.
The bible is not a claim for God. It's certainly not "proof" of anything either."
Dr. Bob replied to David Boots's discussion 'Catholicism is terrorism'"Labeling things "terrorism" has become so over-used by those who wish to suppress dissenting thought that it pretty much falls under Godwin's Law these days.
I wonder why you left out the Jews? That would have made it a perfect…"
Dr. Bob replied to Nathaniel's discussion 'I'm not one of you......'"Well, I suppose, in that a con requires some experience in human psychology in order to manipulate behavior.
A con, however, is trying to get someone to accept a lack of expertise as somehow just as valid as an expert."
Jake LaFort replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'"Thanks Dr. Bob.
More of your spin-wisdom.
It is good to know that all human institutions have some things about em we may not like.
And if we don't like it and we condemn one of em we condemn all of em. So an adherent of absolutes…"
Dr. Bob replied to Nathaniel's discussion 'I'm not one of you......'"Ah, Argumentum ad hominem.
I'd humbly suggest that rather than attack the messenger for all his failings, real and imagined, one can instead address the argument.
If you truly believe in a Scientific Method, despite all of the expert…"
Dr. Bob replied to Nathaniel's discussion 'I'm not one of you......'"I have a belief in all kinds of things we human beings assumed into existence. Massless wave-particles, geometrical ways of thinking, mass-energy equivalence, on and on.
Those ideas are all based on an assumption of Natural Law, and in the…"
Reg The Fronkey Farmer replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'"90 second video on "What is Secularism"."
Dr. Bob replied to Nathaniel's discussion 'I'm not one of you......'"There are lots of folks who reject consensus statements in science for ideological reasons. Most prominently the global warming and evolution deniers at the moment.
You are free to reject such consensus statement from the National Academy of…"
Dr. Bob replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'"What I have a problem with, sometimes, and especially in the past, is what religion considers to be a sin, and the things that it will reject and punish people for.
Sure, and we'd probably agree on most of those.
But that's true of…"
Strega replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'"Oh Simon, those 'religious people' who do the shitty things are not true christians - or they could be the misguided Protestant brethren - but not True Christians"
Simon Paynton replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'"It's not punishment and exclusion that I have a problem with - like you say, those things are sometimes necessary, as part of upholding the moral order.
What I have a problem with, sometimes, and especially in the past, is what religion…"
Dr. Bob replied to Nathaniel's discussion 'I'm not one of you......'"LOL. Yes, don't let data get in the way of your prejudice. At least you're consistent. ;-)
It should be no surprise that you prefer talking with "uneducated teenagers". Must make you feel very smug and…"
Dr. Bob replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Does Secularism make things worse?'"I'm not sure why you think banishment is such a thing. We Catholics have the notion of "excommunication" which means roughly "you have chosen not to be part of the community." For example, if you choose to try to…"
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Standing Fast for Education
Posted on April 4, 2015 at 3:30pm 19 Comments 1 Like
Once again this past week we have news of students and colleagues who have become the target of violence by the forces of rabid tribal ignorance.
Garissa University College on the plains of Kenya is a small but growing school. It was formerly a "normal" school, which is the old fashioned name for a teachers' college - a place where bright and service-minded young people could prepare to carry the light of knowledge to children and teens in towns and villages across the area. More…
Continue Atheist Admires Pope Francis. So what?
Posted on August 13, 2013 at 2:00pm 13 Comments 0 Likes
I ran across this piece by a on a blog maintained by the order. I thought the piece was quite good, actually, and reflects my own views in many ways, and the comments the author makes both to Catholics and indirectly about atheists might be of interest to those here.
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It’s not uncommon for my various social newsfeeds to look like an avalanche of news about Pope Francis; it’s an occupational hazard of (i) being a Jesuit and (ii) knowing a lot of Catholics.…
Continue Religion as Idolatry: A Theist's Perspective
Posted on May 10, 2013 at 7:22pm 13 Comments 0 Likes
This past week, in a small corner of the news there was information about a bombing of a Church in a small community near Arusha, Tanzania. Several locals along with a handful of Saudi nationals have been arrested as responsible. The target apparently was the Archbishop of Arusha, a man whom I know personally and whose installation I attended some years back in Tanzania. Many innocent people were hurt, who were just gathered as a community to dedicate a new church building they had…
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- At 1:56pm on April 8, 2015,
Colleen Jousma said… Are you really a doctor? :D
- At 6:06pm on November 21, 2014, Reg The Fronkey Farmer said…
Yes, I am often more annoyed with the anti-science brigade than the religious fundies. I suppose there is a high correlation between them though. I will post this link in my next Sunday school page.
No bird though, just a good Indian curry!!
- At 5:02pm on November 17, 2014, Reg The Fronkey Farmer said…
Hi Bob, I found that post here...
- At 7:02pm on November 15, 2014, Reg The Fronkey Farmer said…
Hi Bob, I get the travel bit...I am about to fly to the US for Thanksgiving. I have a place in Florida and family living in Atlanta so we will meet up on the beach......I can't find the blog I wrote but will search again for it. I know I did not delete it. I have helped many fundamentalists and born again to get back on track (or on track for the first time). I am almost "religious" about it :-)
- At 7:07pm on October 11, 2013,
Cesar Deicide said… Moderation? Seriously?
- At 7:06pm on October 11, 2013, Cesar Deicide said…
What happened to the blog post?!
- At 6:03pm on August 13, 2013,
Unseen said… Hello, Dr. Bob. Nice to meet you.
- At 4:11pm on March 16, 2013,
Sagacious Hawk said… It's refreshing to see a believer on these forums approach with civil, polite, and intelligent discourse even when not treated with such. You, sir, have run our virtual gauntlet and gained my respect. I do hope you stick around and continue to contribute. I sometimes worry that without dissenting opinions and viewpoints, we'll just keep reinforcing our own, and while some of us try to keep a level head and an open mind, we can't articulate a different viewpoint as well as if it was actually ours.
That said, I know it can be a daunting task, but I look forward to seeing what you have to say in the future.
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