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The Arguement from Divine Selfishness

Started this discussion. Last reply by matt.clerke Nov 13, 2016. 15 Replies

This is a basic idea I think is coherent, and I’m going to try and see if I can structure it properly.1. If God exists, God created the universe2. It is selfish to perform an action with consequences…Continue

Tags: Christianity, Theism, Counter-apologetics

A song about Atheism

Started Aug 14, 2016 0 Replies

I'm sure some of you have heard Shelley Segal's song "Saved", as I for example discovered as the opening theme to The Atheist Experience.But how many of you have heard "I think that's what I believe"…Continue

How I became an Atheist

Started this discussion. Last reply by TJ Aug 2, 2016. 5 Replies

I'd like to tell my story.I was raised in a very liberal Christian household. Although we didn't hold any animosity or hostility towards people who disagreed with us, or homosexuals or anything, our…Continue

Tags: deconversion

What does the arguement from Fine-tuning say about God?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Pope Beanie Jul 30, 2016. 24 Replies

This guy has a very interesting take on that.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPICs6YbFtAWould very much like to know what you think.Continue

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matt.clerke replied to Ole Fredrik Skjegstad's discussion 'The Arguement from Divine Selfishness'
"Even if God is omnipotent, there's no reason to assume he created the universe. It could of come into being on it's own, or been created by a different god. I think I understand the point of the argument... It's to show that god is…"
Nov 13, 2016
TJ replied to Ole Fredrik Skjegstad's discussion 'The Arguement from Divine Selfishness'
"Too many assumptions with no evidence to support them. For example, the assumption that if there is "a god" then, he created the universe. I'd postulate that if there IS "a god", that, as there is no credible evidence of its…"
Nov 12, 2016
_Robert_ replied to Ole Fredrik Skjegstad's discussion 'The Arguement from Divine Selfishness'
"Everything...entropy is what causes us to have to work to stay alive and it always wins as you eventually return to dirt."
Nov 12, 2016
Simon Paynton replied to Ole Fredrik Skjegstad's discussion 'The Arguement from Divine Selfishness'
"Surely you're personifying it now.  What has suffering got to do with entropy? "
Nov 12, 2016
_Robert_ replied to Ole Fredrik Skjegstad's discussion 'The Arguement from Divine Selfishness'
"It implies servitude. Suffering has everything to do with entropy."
Nov 12, 2016
Simon Paynton replied to Ole Fredrik Skjegstad's discussion 'The Arguement from Divine Selfishness'
"I don't think a gift has to be from somebody.  People say things like, I have a gift for languages, or so and so is gifted.  It doesn't have to be personified.  Of course, to a Christian, these things are gifts from…"
Nov 12, 2016
Davis Goodman replied to Ole Fredrik Skjegstad's discussion 'The Arguement from Divine Selfishness'
"Sorry...you are forgetting the fact that an eternity of groveling to God and praising him will be such ecstacy..it will make up for all the horror God put us through on Earth...so in the end it is all good. Bit you might say....what about hell?…"
Nov 11, 2016
_Robert_ replied to Ole Fredrik Skjegstad's discussion 'The Arguement from Divine Selfishness'
"So that is why there is only one christian church, LOL"
Nov 11, 2016
_Robert_ replied to Ole Fredrik Skjegstad's discussion 'The Arguement from Divine Selfishness'
"A gift from who? Also who are you paying with suffering. Can we at least get over personification of the universe. There is nothing giving gifts or asking for your suffering. You evolved from creatures that did not even know they were alive."
Nov 11, 2016
Simon Paynton replied to Ole Fredrik Skjegstad's discussion 'The Arguement from Divine Selfishness'
"I don't think it's at all difficult to answer the question, "what would Jesus do?" since the actual character of Jesus is one thing that has survived well into the present day. "
Nov 11, 2016
Simon Paynton replied to Ole Fredrik Skjegstad's discussion 'The Arguement from Divine Selfishness'
"Where is He to explain it?  I guess the Bible or Qu'ran is where He is said to have done it.  The difficult, and convenient, thing about mysticism is that it's difficult to both understand and explain.  The other thing about…"
Nov 11, 2016
Ole Fredrik Skjegstad replied to Ole Fredrik Skjegstad's discussion 'The Arguement from Divine Selfishness'
"The really interesting experiment that could be asked is "Why not ask Jesus if he's got an answer for you?" How long would it take before discrepancies between Christian responses crop up?"
Nov 11, 2016
Pope Beanie replied to Ole Fredrik Skjegstad's discussion 'The Arguement from Divine Selfishness'
"I think that should be an interesting discussion with theists, or at least Christians. Ultimately I have to question the validity of any dogma, especially dogmas with followers that insist that theirs has the most validity. So I could never argue…"
Nov 11, 2016
Ole Fredrik Skjegstad replied to Ole Fredrik Skjegstad's discussion 'The Arguement from Divine Selfishness'
"Acceptable. But you could also ask the question "who says?" If God decided that is so, then he has neglected to properly explain his reasons for doing so. If this was inevitable, then God is actually absolved of blame, but how do you show…"
Nov 11, 2016
Simon Paynton replied to Ole Fredrik Skjegstad's discussion 'The Arguement from Divine Selfishness'
"But you could also say that life can be a beautiful gift, and who would want to miss out on that?  Suffering is the price we inevitably pay for the joy.  Some people have more of one, some people have more of the other. "
Nov 11, 2016
Ole Fredrik Skjegstad posted a discussion

The Arguement from Divine Selfishness

This is a basic idea I think is coherent, and I’m going to try and see if I can structure it properly.1. If God exists, God created the universe2. It is selfish to perform an action with consequences that are worse for others than yourself, especially if the doer of this action is aware of this.3. The act of creation had worse consequences for beings other than God, and God was aware of this.4. Therefore, God performed a selfish action when he created the universe.Premise #1 is an assertion…See More
Nov 11, 2016

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Atheist. Humanist. Free thinker. Still figuring a lot of things out.
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At 6:16am on August 6, 2016, Reg The Fronkey Farmer said…

Thanks for the addition Ole.

At 11:53pm on July 23, 2016, SteveInCO said…

Hello Ole Skjegstad, and welcome to Think Atheist.  Plenty of atheists here for you to engage.

At 5:57pm on July 23, 2016, Reg The Fronkey Farmer said…

Hello Ole and welcome to Think Atheist.

 
 
 

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