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Advice for a radio discussion RE: Scouts Promise
Started Dec 6, 2012 0 Replies 0 Likes
Hey everyone,Hope you are all well. I got a call today from someone at BBC London radio, and they would like me to join a discussion on Sunday about the current issue that UK scouts are facing. Some…Continue
Tags: Radio, Atheist, Discrimination, Scouts, Advice
How to argue against a particular delusion.
Started this discussion. Last reply by Erock68la Apr 24. 359 Replies 5 Likes
Hello everyone,A friend of mine is a pretty die-hard Christian (shock horror, both of his parents are missionaries/vicars) and he often posts little sayings of some kind or another on Facebook, which…Continue
Tags: Religion, Modern, Christians, Invented, God
Cherry-picking religion: Do some religious people just choose the bits they like?
Started this discussion. Last reply by Unseen Nov 6, 2011. 186 Replies 4 Likes
Hello everyone, I am fairly new to Think Atheist, so thought I would start with a topic that has always confused me. If this has already some up somewhere on the site I apologise, but I couldn't…Continue
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Toby Briggs replied to Natasha Gladwell's discussion 'How to argue against a particular delusion.'"Problem is people like me when i was a christian. To me adam and eve just use to be a metaphor ect. just like lots of gensis is actually a hebrew poem. So i fully accepted evolution and simply thought adam and eve ect were just poems/metaphors ect.!…"
Gary replied to Natasha Gladwell's discussion 'How to argue against a particular delusion.'"I think it all breaks down to the beginning of life. If your friend does value science then I presume he accepts evolution. If evolution happened then there was no Adam and Eve. If there was no Adam and Eve there was no original…"
Erock68la replied to Natasha Gladwell's discussion 'How to argue against a particular delusion.'"To paraphrase Sam Harris: If someone does not respect evidence, what evidence could you provide that would make them respect evidence? If someone does not respect logic, what logical argument could you make to convince them?
I also like…"
Toby Briggs replied to Natasha Gladwell's discussion 'How to argue against a particular delusion.'"Hi, i acutually use to be a bit like that. I believed in evolution and god all at the same time and said adam and eve and all the rest were just metaphors to help us understand god. OMG cant believe i use to believe that stuff. see my blog if you…"
Dave Core replied to Natasha Gladwell's discussion 'How to argue against a particular delusion.'"The fact that so many Christians approach the issues of science differently says to me that they are all actually different religions. Fundamental literalists who deny science are one religion. Allegorical literalists who believe that it's all…"
jan mckay replied to Natasha Gladwell's discussion 'How to argue against a particular delusion.'"Meant to add this to my post."
jan mckay replied to Natasha Gladwell's discussion 'How to argue against a particular delusion.'"Sometimes there is just no point in debating such people, you might as well bash your head against a wall. I stumbled on an interesting web page today, about Fractal wrongness, interesting read and it may apply here. here is the…"
Pope Beanie replied to Natasha Gladwell's discussion 'How to argue against a particular delusion.'"Thinking about this (today), metaphorically: Rational thinking requires planting (rational) flowers, and pulling (irrational) weeds. I don't see how I can pull others' weeds, but maybe I can plant flowers. Even if someone believes in God…"
Andy Hoke replied to Natasha Gladwell's discussion 'How to argue against a particular delusion.'"Karl,
"1. Non-existent, 2. Powerless or 3. Evil"
I like it and I'm stealing it :)"
Andy Hoke replied to Natasha Gladwell's discussion 'How to argue against a particular delusion.'"Non-chicken... That's awesome."
Andy Hoke replied to Natasha Gladwell's discussion 'How to argue against a particular delusion.'"Warren, good points. I am very selective about discussing religion, which I why I love this site.
These days, I see the religious as victims of negative societal forces. Religion is part of the way the world makes sense to them at this point."
Andy Hoke replied to Natasha Gladwell's discussion 'How to argue against a particular delusion.'"Hi Ike,
I like your approach to discussing religion with the religious.
I find it to be a rather disarming technique to do as you do, ask questions. Honestly seek out answers to your questions about their position. I like to point out that I'm…"
Andy Hoke replied to Natasha Gladwell's discussion 'How to argue against a particular delusion.'"Wow, lots of posts on this one.
Natasha, on the surface it seems like your friend is employing circular logic.
I recommend Wikipedia's page on informal fallacies in logic. Study of these will make you more cynical if you are like me, because…"
IkeArrumba replied to Natasha Gladwell's discussion 'How to argue against a particular delusion.'"I have some friends on facebook that do the same thing. Here are my bottom-line responses to your post:
You will not change this person's beliefs. He is deep into his delusion.
Ignore their comments or unfriend him so you don't see…"
Ron Humphrey replied to Natasha Gladwell's discussion 'How to argue against a particular delusion.'"Why did the chicken cross the road? To prove to the possum that it could be done."
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- I have been an atheist all of my life. I have no hatred towards those who are religious and never try to force my beliefs on anyone; I only encourage people who ask to think with an open, critical mind and to not rely on religion to make them happy or peaceful. I do not believe that religion is needed to give anyone a purpose in life. I believe that there is no real purpose, that life on Earth is probably an accident. So many find that depressing, but it is what makes me happier than anything else; we are all incredibly lucky to have this experience as human beings on this beautiful planet in this incredible universe (and perhaps more) - why is that not enough for some?
"Strange is our situation here on Earth. Each of us comes for a short visit, not knowing why, yet sometimes seeming to divine a purpose. From the standpoint of daily life, however, there is one thing we do know: that man is here for the sake of other men -- above all for those upon whose smiles and well-being our own happiness depends." - Albert Einstein
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- At 5:02pm on October 11, 2011,
Monica McGee (Monicks) said… Welcome to Think Atheist, Natasha! It is great to have you here.
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- At 3:05pm on October 8, 2011,
Robert Karp said… Welcome to the Think Atheist community Natasha!
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Signs of the Lord
Started by RobertPiano in Small Talk. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck 2 hours ago. 1 Reply 0 Likes
World conflict and problems other than Israel-Palestine.
Started by Davis Goodman in Small Talk. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck 2 hours ago. 13 Replies 1 Like
How should Israel deal with the missile onslaught?
Started by Unseen in Politics, Economics, Civil and Reproductive Rights, International Conflicts. Last reply by Gallup's Mirror 2 hours ago. 71 Replies 0 Likes
Jonathan Haidt: Religion, evolution, and the ecstasy of self-transcendence
Started by Emperor Milos in Small Talk. Last reply by RobertPiano 13 hours ago. 7 Replies 1 Like
FROM THE WORD OF GOD IN THE OLD TESTAMENT
Started by Stephen Gunn in Small Talk. Last reply by Stephen Gunn 13 hours ago. 15 Replies 0 Likes
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