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What would a "secular theocracy" actually look like?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Pope Beanie May 24, 2015. 10 Replies

I am sure that many of you saw the headline the other days about Mike Huckabee's contention that we live in a "secular theocracy" and that he wants to change that.  Now, obviously, this is the sort…Continue

Does Atheistic Fanaticism Really Exist?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Mike Cole Aug 28, 2014. 82 Replies

It has been suggested in discussions, both here and elsewhere, that there are "atheist fanatics" and that they are "just the same" as religious fanatics.  Personally, I find this assertion ludicrous…Continue

Resolved: Pride is the primary motivation behind religion.

Started this discussion. Last reply by Hope Jan 27, 2011. 3 Replies

I have long thought that pride and the related competition for social status did more to explain religion than fear.  Fear is the hook they use to reel the fish in, but it is pride that motivates the…Continue

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Mo Trauen replied to Michelle Sandall's discussion 'Religious slaughter and the law, what do you think?'
"Sometimes it can be hard to know whether one is breaking the law or not here in the U.S.  There are so many different, overlapping and even contradictory rules.  Even laymen have to do a little research before taking up a new activity…"
Feb 22
Mo Trauen replied to Michelle Sandall's discussion 'Religious slaughter and the law, what do you think?'
"In America the law doesn't require a great deal of "extra" rationalization.  What seems to be a purely religious exception or rule will be upheld by the courts if it can be justified on even the flimsiest of pretexts.  For…"
Feb 22
Mo Trauen replied to Michelle Sandall's discussion 'Religious slaughter and the law, what do you think?'
"Sorry, Murray, but ISIS is religious.  They are religious fundamentalists. "
Feb 22
Mo Trauen replied to Michelle Sandall's discussion 'Religious slaughter and the law, what do you think?'
"The law and most people draw a distinction between the treatment of animals and humans.  In other words, the implicit assumption is that it isn't a slippery slope.  We make the same assumption in justifying all sorts of things, such…"
Feb 21
Mo Trauen commented on Morgan Matthew's photo

So you're an atheist?

"My experiences have been the same as Jim Smith's.  Christians are all hypocrites on some level because it is part of their belief system but some are just unbelievable."
Dec 11, 2015
Mo Trauen replied to Reg The Fronkey Farmer's discussion 'Is that a Light up ahead?'
"That's not faith; that's inductive reasoning."
Dec 7, 2015
Mo Trauen replied to Ron Humphrey's discussion 'How to respond to what I consider an irrational position'
"I would suggest that you either say nothing or make it a very low key comment.  I don't know you or your relative etc., but I find that there is no point in starting arguments with believers.  They turn nasty much too easily."
Jun 22, 2015
Mo Trauen replied to Unseen's discussion 'Gadzooks! We may be hardwired to believe in a creator!!!'
"Maybe the fact that theists have methodically exterminated us for thousands of years helps explain why it appears that there may be a predisposition for religious belief.  We know from dog breeding that it only takes a relatively short amount…"
Jun 22, 2015
Mo Trauen replied to Belle Rose's discussion 'I'm confused about morality'
"Moral refers to those things you consider to be good.  Immoral refers to those things you consider to be bad.  Amoral refers to those things that are neither. For the most  part, moral conundrums can be solved with a simple…"
Jun 17, 2015
Mo Trauen replied to Dr. Bob's discussion 'Is Atheism an Idea?'
"Atheism is simply the correct logical conclusion based on the evidence we have."
Jun 3, 2015
Pope Beanie replied to Mo Trauen's discussion 'What would a "secular theocracy" actually look like?'
"Here's an interesting POV that's relevant, ironically from a Republican (or ex?) pointing out how Fox (bubble) News helps our politics play out: "
May 24, 2015
Pope Beanie replied to Mo Trauen's discussion 'What would a "secular theocracy" actually look like?'
"I think the history Cruzism/Huckabeeism will be viewed similarly to other American failures, like prohibitionism, McCarthyism, (hopefully) righteous/careless interventionism, self-destructive reactions to terrorism, climate change denial, and so on.…"
May 24, 2015
Mo Trauen commented on Pope Beanie's blog post 'The Purpose of Atheism'
"The purpose of atheism is to stand in juxtaposition to theism.  It is simply the opposite concept.  I would prefer to live in a world where both terms were taught in high school history class as part of a long and thoroughly settled debate…"
May 24, 2015
Mo Trauen replied to Mo Trauen's discussion 'What would a "secular theocracy" actually look like?'
"What I wanted to know was what modern, non-communist, atheists would like to see happen in our society.  Obviously, like I said, the tax exemptions for churches would have to go.  They are blatantly un-Constitutional even now (though the…"
May 24, 2015
Dr. Bob replied to Mo Trauen's discussion 'What would a "secular theocracy" actually look like?'
"The world's done Secular Theocracy already, @Mo .   It was called Stalinism, or perhaps Maoism. I confess that I am looking forward to watching Mike Huckabee and all of the other Republican presidential hopefuls (I think there are…"
May 22, 2015
Mo Trauen replied to Unseen's discussion 'Illogic and the death penalty'
"More intellectual dishonesty.  The question isn't between a sentence of imprisonment and death versus death.  The question is between a long sentence ending upon the prisoner's natural death (to which we are all sentenced by…"
May 21, 2015

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Drunk priest propositions cops

Posted on March 7, 2011 at 12:31pm 1 Comment

It's impossible to come up with a comment that tops the story headline:


I will simply add that this is yet more proof that the clergy are a bunch of sick, twisted parasites.


If you click on the link, hit play right away.  I noticed that it seemed to disappear…


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At 6:29pm on May 11, 2012, Leslie Ann said…


At times I'm more than ready to run as far as I can from the belt but then there's a lot more that I love here. Hopefully I'll end up in a more accepting place than where I grew up.

At 10:04pm on February 23, 2012, kevin searley said…

thanks x

At 12:31pm on February 11, 2012, Helen Pluckrose said…

Thanks Mo! Its one of those weird English surnames which come from a job in medieval times - one peasant on a large estate belonging to a nobleman would take responsibility for overseeing the work of the others and in return when the other tenants paid their rent in produce or money he would symbolically present the Lord or whatever with a rose from his garden in lieu of rent. He would be known by the surname Pluckrose so everyone knew he was a sort of supervisor. Has unfortunate rhyming possibilities when my husband was at school tho!

At 10:11pm on November 24, 2011, Becca said…

Hello from Oregon! In response to your curiosity about my comments in the "God in School" topic I posted some articles about religion in Oregon in my Oregon Atheists group.

At 10:06pm on June 15, 2011, Robin said…

Thanks for your input.

Better off with weed I'm not.. I have made the decision to stop, my life was consumed it.. The love affair is over. Time for a new hobby...

It's time to grow up and smell the roses...and the dog shit if it needs picking up...


At 10:07pm on June 8, 2011, Gloria Stevens said…
Oh, in that case, sorry about that.  I thought, WOW, that was pretty harsh - LOL.
At 2:21pm on June 2, 2011, Spacey said…
Yay my first friend! :)
At 11:26pm on May 9, 2011, Andrea said…
Hey Mo! The "thing" on my head is a vintage rabbit-fur pillbox hat with a veil. And, holy crap, I love your pic!
At 2:38pm on May 6, 2011, randy brooks said…
Greetings. Thanks for the friending, you are my first. Stay free.
At 6:14pm on March 27, 2011, Monica McGee (Monicks) said…

Hi, Mo. Thanks for adding me as a friend, nice to meet you.

Also, thanks for your kind comment about my status message. Yes, it's my original thought, it was originally a tweet. You can read the original version here.



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