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"There has to be something..."

Started this discussion. Last reply by _Robert_ Oct 27, 2015. 22 Replies

I was faced with this assertion today after revealing to an acquittance of mine that I am an atheist. The very short exchange went something like this...acquittance: "How do you know all this,…Continue

Socratic Method

Started this discussion. Last reply by Ed May 26, 2015. 5 Replies

Thought this was a great example of the Socratic method involving whether or not an atheist can be a moral person.A Modern…Continue

This is great.

Started this discussion. Last reply by James Cox May 6, 2014. 8 Replies

I just had to share this here.Christian volunteerContinue

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_Robert_ replied to Michael's discussion '"There has to be something..."'
"Let's take love. It's a lot like god. No real definition, transcends, goes on forever, gives you that cozy feeling. Is it real?...well it's as real as you make it, just like god. We are evolved to believe in bullshit.…"
Oct 27, 2015
Davis Goodman replied to Michael's discussion '"There has to be something..."'
"Is that magical thinking or creative thinking with the extra window dressing?"
Oct 27, 2015
_Robert_ replied to Michael's discussion '"There has to be something..."'
"Yes, I think religion and the afterlife, class strata, money, human rights, beauty, art, music and love are all products of "magical thinking". They do not even necessarily exist if we did not. These ideas are born of imagination and have…"
Oct 27, 2015
Pope Beanie replied to Michael's discussion '"There has to be something..."'
"I still think that magical thinking helped, at first. Imagining what is or may be possible facilitates creative problem solving, for better and for worse. I'd also put testosterone in that category... for better and for worse."
Oct 27, 2015
Davis Goodman replied to Michael's discussion '"There has to be something..."'
"Or is it that human kind has been able to dominate the planet despite it's bad habit of taking magical thinking to psychotic extremes?"
Oct 27, 2015
SteveInCO replied to Michael's discussion '"There has to be something..."'
"The ideal balance to be struck is to ask them a question that forces them to think about what they're shoveling, without ridiculuing them...which makes them defensive and unwilling to think about it. One tactic I've heard about, if…"
Oct 27, 2015
_Robert_ replied to Michael's discussion '"There has to be something..."'
"Magical thinking has enabled human kind to dominate the planet, it won't be going away real soon, however it could go away eventually. It's how and why we can cooperate at unprecedented levels."
Oct 26, 2015
Pope Beanie replied to Michael's discussion '"There has to be something..."'
"Yeah, but it's not my intention to embarrass or laugh at them. I just want them to think more about all the crap they've been fed, and give them an opportunity to consider my alternative point of view, or other POVs. Most of them have been…"
Oct 26, 2015
matt.clerke replied to Michael's discussion '"There has to be something..."'
"In western countries, people usually mean either god or some sort of new-age spirit type thing. Either way, does it make any difference to the conversation? I suppose making them put their woo woo into words might be somewhat embarrassing (and thus…"
Oct 26, 2015
Pope Beanie replied to Michael's discussion '"There has to be something..."'
"But I do... and there are no stories about atheists committing suicide because they don't have that "something", whatever you mean by it. Btw, what do you mean by it?"
Oct 25, 2015
matt.clerke replied to Michael's discussion '"There has to be something..."'
"I wouldn't bother asking this as I'm already fairly sure the answer is "because it feels bad to think otherwise". As I said above, a better question would be "Show me that..." "
Oct 25, 2015
Unseen replied to Michael's discussion '"There has to be something..."'
"Maybe you planted a little black hole in their belief system. "
Oct 23, 2015
Pope Beanie replied to Michael's discussion '"There has to be something..."'
"I strongly suspect that the need to find purpose and to fulfill roles is quite naturally an evolved trait, not only for us, but even for lower animals. It used to be simple: Belong to and serve a group; empower the group; play a role that feels like…"
Oct 22, 2015
Simon Paynton replied to Michael's discussion '"There has to be something..."'
"Something more:  dammit, fuck everybody, there is something more.  I now have an explanation of my theory that I'm happy with.  Nature wants you to survive, and in vigorous health.  These are a direct and straightforward…"
Oct 22, 2015
Simon Paynton replied to Michael's discussion '"There has to be something..."'
"I agree.  Reason and logic aren't the same thing as wisdom.  For wisdom you have to have compassion and preferably experience as well. "
Oct 22, 2015
Davis Goodman replied to Michael's discussion '"There has to be something..."'
"If you can look past the Fart jokes youll find that they deal with difficult topics better than most philosophers do...and you get to laugh your ass off along the way."
Oct 22, 2015

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