"Well, Galen, I know you not at all, but I give you exhibit A:
"SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU STUPID CUNT before I bash your fucking face in!"
If that isn't you being angry, then I am can only assume you are Dr David…"
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Mat Baker replied to Skycomet the Fallen Angel's discussion 'YOU KNOW WHY YOU'RE HERE, RIGHT?!!! *add hysteria here*'Mat Baker replied to Skycomet the Fallen Angel's discussion 'YOU KNOW WHY YOU'RE HERE, RIGHT?!!! *add hysteria here*'"Mo,
I take on board what you are saying - I understand that the evangelical right (or of any persuasion, I suppose) exert more influence in America. I have seen some of the stuff said by Bush et al, and it is appalling.
We don't…"
Mat Baker replied to Skycomet the Fallen Angel's discussion 'YOU KNOW WHY YOU'RE HERE, RIGHT?!!! *add hysteria here*'"You seem very angry Galen.
This word "bully" is used wrongly all the time these days - often to justify appalling behaviour.
Have you seen a film called "The Last Supper"? It kind of reminds of this place sometimes,…"
Mat Baker replied to Skycomet the Fallen Angel's discussion 'YOU KNOW WHY YOU'RE HERE, RIGHT?!!! *add hysteria here*'"And you would suddenly become worse than her.
Good job."
Mat Baker replied to Skycomet the Fallen Angel's discussion 'YOU KNOW WHY YOU'RE HERE, RIGHT?!!! *add hysteria here*'"Do people not get it, the fear instilled in people from childhood?
This reaction, whilst hysterical, is pretty understandable when you have built your life around fairy stories.
It shows how powerful religion is, and why it is such a…"
Eoganacht commented on Mat Baker's blog post 'Book burning...'"Do I respect books? Yes
Do I respect ideas? Yes
Do I respect the rights of peope to hold to their ideas? Yes
Do I agree with people burning books? No
Do I agree with peoples' right to burn books? Yes
Do I respect the muslims' rights to…"
Atheist Exile commented on Mat Baker's blog post 'Book burning...'"Muslims have managed, through the use and threat of violence, to turn tolerance on its head. It is now considered intolerant to disagree with Islamic dogma. The God of the Bible never had it so good!
We should not be burning ANY book. Instead we…"
"Yeah Mat ... unfortunately he's not the Messiah and I think he could've been a bit more thoughtful on some of those words ... whilst Saudi Arabia shreds bibles and no-one's complaining about that, there might've been other/better…"
Mat Baker commented on Mat Baker's blog post 'Book burning...'"VJF - Obama had no choice but to pass comment, and not to have prepared a diplomatic response would have been irresponsible. He doesn't play by the same rules we do..."
Mat Baker commented on Mat Baker's blog post 'Book burning...'"I agree, Victoria. To me, the building of a mosque, so close to Ground Zero is an arguably provocative act, and I can understand why people are opposed to it.
Those worshipping in the mosque will be praying to the same god who the victims of 9/11…"
Victoria Santiago-Menedez commented on Mat Baker's blog post 'Book burning...'"i feel what that priest is saying. even though wat happened was a horrific tragedy i dont think that they should try 2 build that muslim church there out of respect. and that priest should resort to matters as of burning something that is part of…"
Mat Baker commented on Mat Baker's blog post 'Book burning...'"And to be fair to Obama, he has to play the game, and has to pick his words carefully. IMO, he did a pretty good job at developing a moral argument for not burning the texts.
Just imagine what a mess Dubya would have made of it..."
Mat Baker commented on Mat Baker's blog post 'Book burning...'"Nancy - this is exactly the point that I am trying to make. I have spoken to a few people about this, and this threat of violence if we do not do what we are told to is passing people by. The response to this today - "death to all…"
"Well I'm glad (I think) if the Koran burning has been called off - but not if it is appeasement against threats of murder. Doone, your transcript does not read to me as if Obama did anything to counter this at all:
"Well, look, the…"
Mat Baker commented on Mat Baker's blog post 'Book burning...'"Willailla
I am trying to work out if you are simply playing devil's advocate, or if you are that conceited, that arrogant, or if you are nowhere near as clever as you think you are.
You have given me one or two facts along the way, but most…"
"As for your post Willailla - I have great sympathy with some of what you say about the terrible effect of the West on the Middle East ... but whilst we can 'understand' terrorists and extremists like Al Kaida and other fundie extremists…"
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Book burning...
Posted on September 8, 2010 at 4:17am 55 Comments 0 Likes
Ok, the first thing that I have to stress is that I do not approve or support in any way the attention seeking Christians in America who wish to publicly burn the Koran; it is needlessly provocative, and could cause a lot of trouble for other people.
But, there is the rub.
See, if some Muslims (and, no, I am not suggesting all Muslims are the same) got up in arms about it and decided to retaliate in a proportionate way (ie, burn a few bibles), I would have no issues with it… Continue
But, there is the rub.
See, if some Muslims (and, no, I am not suggesting all Muslims are the same) got up in arms about it and decided to retaliate in a proportionate way (ie, burn a few bibles), I would have no issues with it… Continue
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