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Hijab (Muslim Veil) and Sexual Objectification
Started this discussion. Last reply by Laila Moe Dec 11, 2013. 21 Replies 2 Likes
All feminists and humanists of Think Atheist, I need help/ feedback. This is an essay about the arguments Muslims use to explain why veiling is empowering and great, and a response to all of that:…Continue
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The purpose of this group is to discuss morality from all points of view: biological, evolutionary, philosophical. Specific moral questions are also encouraged: if you have a moral question for us atheists, feel free to post it here.See More
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Laila Moe replied to Laila Moe's discussion 'Hijab (Muslim Veil) and Sexual Objectification'"For sure, i agree with you. But I'm looking into the meanings and ideas behind the veil.
They can choose to practice and believe what they wish, I just want to understand it and dissect it because this is how I make my decisions. "
Laila Moe replied to Laila Moe's discussion 'Hijab (Muslim Veil) and Sexual Objectification'"Yes, this goes all from slut shaming to colonial "feminism" to more slut shaming. I didn't say anything about the veil being empowering. I do think the video achieves nothing. A lot of women have been removing the veil in my country…"
David Smith replied to Laila Moe's discussion 'Hijab (Muslim Veil) and Sexual Objectification'"Hmm, i don't really have time to read all that. That said i feel that i still have the objectivity to say that to empower people you need to give them both education and choice in their personal lives. To that end, if they choose to wear…"
Cesar Deicide replied to Laila Moe's discussion 'Hijab (Muslim Veil) and Sexual Objectification'"I saw the video when first posted and many muslim viewers were writing nothing but hate about her removing her hijab. One even compared it to homosexuality and zoophilia, others calling her a whore. She eventually had to take the video down. I…"
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This group is for the ladies! Men are welcome to join, but it's all girl stuff here. It's meant to be a fun group that has nothing but hilarious, or inspiring videos, blogs, quotes, images...whatever. So if you need to put a smile on your face and don't know where to turn, you can always come here. Of course anything religiously/atheism based is welcome. I'd like to keep content positive and uplifting. There's plenty of other places on TA for the more heavy issues we face as women, such as the…See More
Laila Moe replied to Laila Moe's discussion 'Hijab (Muslim Veil) and Sexual Objectification'""Well fuck." indeed :P
Well picture an idealistic feminist world... women would actually be able to do that... but it would be much different from what we have now. What helped give me perspective on the separation of objectification and…"
Kairan Nierde replied to Laila Moe's discussion 'Hijab (Muslim Veil) and Sexual Objectification'"This is a very informative essay. This woman has a lot of wisdom. Thank you for sharing this here...I have definitely learned from it.
But I don't agree with the idea that neither veiling nor not veiling are a choice because of the influence of…"
Laila Moe replied to Laila Moe's discussion 'Hijab (Muslim Veil) and Sexual Objectification'"The stares themselves are not objectifying. If you really think about it, when you look at a loved one and kind of mesmerize at their beauty, or the sexual attractiveness of a significant other, that is in no way objectifying them. But when you view…"
Belle Rose replied to Laila Moe's discussion 'Hijab (Muslim Veil) and Sexual Objectification'"RE: So me choosing to cover my body consciously and freely, is no less of a free choice than choosing to not cover. Likewise, covering my body under social pressures and expectations is no equally involuntary than wearing fewer clothes under social…"
Kairan Nierde replied to Laila Moe's discussion 'Hijab (Muslim Veil) and Sexual Objectification'"Thanks."
Laila Moe replied to Laila Moe's discussion 'Hijab (Muslim Veil) and Sexual Objectification'"lol for those who are lazy here is the argument for empowerment against sexual objectification (P.S. it would really help if you already know what sexual objectification means before reading this):
My fourth argument for wearing it was that it…"
Laila Moe replied to Laila Moe's discussion 'Hijab (Muslim Veil) and Sexual Objectification'"LMAOOOOO!!! Sure :P "
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- Egyptian. 20. Feminist. Political views undetermined but starting to lean more towards the let. Living in North America for past decade.Currently student of politics, sociology and religion. Currently questioning faith (Islam). I'm just skeptical about everything and questioning every little thing about religion and myself. I'm also trying to stay somewhat anonymous. I don't want anyone to know that I'm questioning, even in North America being surrounded by Muslim friends and family, the social effects could be hurtful... something which I'm not ready to deal with. So please understand. Aspiring to live and work in Egypt. It's absolutely beautiful, yet utterly chaotic and I want to help in any way possible. I have secretly formed my life around this goal and training myself to be able to live there and make change happen. I've been politically active in North America around Egypt's issue, but starting to get absolutely pessimistic and feeling useless. Absolutely support the revolution. Equally distrust Mubarak, SCAF, the Brotherhood, Salafi parties, El Ghad, El Wafd wel nass betoo3 el massale7. Would love to meet any Egyptians to discuss politics, religion, culture, society, media, gender... 2ay 7aga men ree7et masr w khalass. I'm a big Sheikh Imam fan btw! Love Mashrou Leila, Dina El Wedid, Donia Massoud, Ghalia Ben Ali, Badiaa Bouhrizi, Maryam Saleh, Rima Khecheich...
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- Still questioning religion. I have not officially left, or made up my mind. But the more I research and learn the less I buy from the theological arguments. No one wants to answer my questions and the religious community does everything to avoid the very topics that I need to discuss, like whether the Qur'an that we have today is the original text. I used to be very practicing but I secretly quit because I don't see a point in fooling myself praying 5 times a day when I don't know if this religion is true or if there's even a God. I still wear the veil though, planning on taking it off very soon. I thought that there was some good feminist reasons outside of religion for keeping it on, but can't find anything convincing. Wow I rant... feels good though.
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Update: I don't think I should call myself a muslim anymore. I still am researching to have a better understanding of religion, but at this point I really don't think it's true. But I'd still like to learn more...
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This person suffers from severe nostalgia and an irrational attachment to a place and culture too far away.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRCScq45HNk
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I must admit, I'm not a big fan of Richard Dawkins or Steve Pinker for that matter. They're quite ethnocentric. As a feminist and someone who veers more towards the left, I can't stand their Darwinian style elitism. I'm looking for more equitable Athiest or Agnostic thinkers, if anyone could recommend anything please inbox or comment. I'm new to this site so go easy on me. Also any texts that criticize main theological issues in Islam would be great. Documentaries are also welcome. If you're…
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- At 12:55am on December 12, 2013, Jerome said…
hi Laila ana men alex bas 3ayesh fe UK we harg3 masr nxt month enti 3aysha fe US wla masr
- At 6:35pm on November 11, 2013,
Judith van der Roos said… Ok, just was not sure if my faulty memory had lost you !
Regards, Judith
- At 5:03pm on November 10, 2013, Judith van der Roos said…
Hello. I do not recall chatting tp you before, did we ?
Regards
Judith
- At 8:51am on November 6, 2013,
Strega said… Hi Laila! Welcome to Think Atheist :)
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