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C.S.Lewis bait

Started this discussion. Last reply by Kirk Holden Dec 24, 2010. 3 Replies

"Theocracy is the worst of all governments. If we must have a tyrant, a robber baron is far better than an inquisitor." - C.S.Lewis C.S. Lewis often shows up in the set of all factual atheists that…Continue

When China Rules the World

Started this discussion. Last reply by Tom Curtis Dec 24, 2010. 5 Replies

In 2019 (that's 9 years away) China's GDP will equal the US GDP. In  2025 (15 years) China will have double the GDP. Right behind China, Brazil, Russia and India are catching up fast. Aside from the…Continue

SECupp is a Unicorn who lives in a magic garden

Started this discussion. Last reply by Kirk Holden Jul 20, 2010. 4 Replies

[I created this on my blog and I am reposting this here to gather feedback - if this works I will start a Facebook page]SE Cupp (American Republican b.1979) is an author, frequent Fox News guest,…Continue

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Best Web-based Jesus Game Evarrr

Started this discussion. Last reply by Wesley Feb 11, 2010. 3 Replies

The challenge for every porn loving fool on the internets -- see how many times you can nail Chuy to the cross beams. Give yourself a time limit. Don't stay up all night. And remember, in case the…Continue

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Kirk Holden replied to Unseen's discussion 'Would We Be Better Off With A Benign Dictatorship?'
"What, from rationality, is the mass and charge of 'benign'. What are the neurocorrelates of 'benign' -- the brain states of 'benign-ness'. As with most hazy ideas, you have moved the problem around without solving…"
May 4, 2012
Kirk Holden replied to Rick's discussion 'Reading the bible'
"Reading 'the bible' [sic] as literature is fine - you will get as far as you got reading James Joyce's Ulysses or Herman Melville's Moby Dick. Did you read either of these recently? How about War and Peace. If you serious about…"
Jul 22, 2011
Kirk Holden replied to ☼ Doctor Reality ☼'s discussion 'Freewill and Atheism'
"I will use Bob Arctor, Keanu Reeves rotoscoped alter ego in A Scanner Darkly (2006) from PKD's A Scanner Darkly (1977).   Bob Arctor is a free agent - he is in fact the freest agent in his environment. You could say that if Arctor did not…"
Jun 10, 2011
Kirk Holden replied to Mallory's discussion '"Best" bible?'
"NSRV - this is the most meticulous translation to modern English. The maniacal academic focus on preserving the words 'in context" while still retaining the poetry. I can almost always talk rationally from the text and about the text. NSRV…"
Jun 8, 2011
Kirk Holden replied to Sassan K.'s discussion 'Should teaching kids about hell and hell fire be considered psychological torture?'
"Only someone with severe mental illness (e.g. schizophrenia) will spend more that 28 seconds worried about a possible world with hell. Are all those parents reading Dr. Suess afraid there offspring will believe in the Lorax? The Headless Horseman?…"
May 5, 2011
Kirk Holden replied to Kim's discussion 'Baptism/Christening for my baby'
"You got together with the family for a party. That is pretty far from stomach cramps or the dry heaves. I think you will manage to be happy after the terror of the moment is past."
Apr 12, 2011
Kirk Holden replied to Michael Andrews's discussion 'Any opinions about May 21, 2011?'
"Imma go down the road finding my new BMW with the keys in the ignition. Left behind beee-ach."
Apr 12, 2011
Kirk Holden commented on Skycomet the Fallen Angel's blog post 'The Millenial American's College Nightmare'
"Good thing you are an atheist. Otherwise you would be so screwed."
Mar 29, 2011
Kirk Holden replied to Kevin Harris's discussion 'Are All Atheists "Fools"?'
"If I have an IQ of 87, anything I might say could be randomly and unintentionally correct. I might guess the speed of light in a vacuum or the acceleration of gravity but I would still have an IQ of 87.   I could then proceed to foolishly say…"
Mar 29, 2011
Kirk Holden replied to Michael Andrews's discussion 'Now what do we do? Westboro wins court case!'
"You like some speech, you hate other speech. That is clear sign of not doing it right. Again. Someone is out there right now trying to shut you up. You speech makes them anxious. They want you to stop. They will try to stop you."
Mar 2, 2011
Kirk Holden replied to Joli's discussion 'woman walks after 23 years in wheel chair........'
"She must have listened to Thor telling her that he would get her out of the chair "tomorrow" for 23 years. What a joker that dude is."
Mar 2, 2011
Kirk Holden replied to Michael Andrews's discussion 'Now what do we do? Westboro wins court case!'
"For the 8 hundred trillionth time - the dude practices pristine law in the protests. He will never shut up and he will never be shut up. Just like you and I calling ourselves atheists. So why do you hate the 1st amendment, oh reasonable atheist?"
Mar 2, 2011
Kirk Holden replied to natanael's discussion 'Where You Afraid?'
"I never believed in the supernatural. Religion was a social and political construct but I couldn't put that into words at age 6."
Feb 28, 2011
Kirk Holden replied to Hope's discussion 'Oil as a source of energy'
"From 2025 to 2075 - Fast Breeder Reactors. From 2060 to 2100 - Fusion. Or we could go back to ox carts."
Feb 28, 2011
Kirk Holden replied to Sophie's discussion 'How many of you think that a historical Jesus never existed?'
"Yeshua ben Yoseph and some signifigant population of terrorist in the time of teh Jesus were conducting an intafada against Hellenistic Syria. Sounds like everyday in the Levant for 2.4 million years of heavy traffic by the Homo X…"
Feb 27, 2011
Kirk Holden replied to Thew's discussion 'Missing Something?'
"The plural of anecdote is not data. If you asked everyone you knew to take a survey you would likely find less useless coersion by irrationality. You are reinforcing a cognitive bias that intellegent people are rational in all aspects of their lives…"
Feb 27, 2011

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Provide us with the citations for just 10 of the foundational papers supporting climate change (really an infinitesimal amount of the literature supporting the science). These must be papers from peer-reviewed journal articles (i.e., the actual science of climate change, not IPCC reports). Then, clearly show us how these papers can be and/or have been scientifically debunked (data, analyzes, and conclusions, please). - bilbo Says:
February 10th, 2010 at 4:14 pm [some guy on C.Moody's "The Intersection"]
"I really can't do a good job, any job, of explaining magnetic force in terms of something else you're more familiar with, because I don't understand it in terms of anything else you're more familiar with." Richard Feynman
Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago. -- Bernard Berenson
"Science may be described as the art of systematic oversimplification" Karl Popper
"...the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short" Thomas Hobbes
Paraphrase Leviathan - As religion is only found in man, so its seed must be in man. Men live always in fear, and make gods of things to praise and blame for their condition.
The "substrate free" version of it is called universal darwinism and is essentially an algorithm composed of three steps: replication or copying, variations amongst the copies, and selective survival of the copies determined by which variations they possess.


To suggest that religion is being misused when it's used to oppress women is like arguing that hammers aren't meant to be used to bang down nails, just because they can also be used to pull out nails.
- Amanda Marcotte in Slate 1/11/10


Bloomberg's Margaret Carlson, on Monday night's Countdown, said it best: "Sarah Palin is the latest in a line of populists, but she's very different in one way. Populists historically have pretended not to know anything. They've actually been part of a fairly intellectual group of people. But she really doesn't know anything. And it's in God's plan apparently that she not learn anything."

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At 5:56pm on January 25, 2010, Lindsey Sayre said…
to answer your comment on my blog, no i have not, but i plan to soon... as in the the next couple of days.
At 3:03pm on January 25, 2010, Skycomet the Fallen Angel said…
Thanks for posting on my discussion! ^_^ You sound very intelligent and I look forward to looking at your blogs and discussion posts.
At 4:56pm on November 19, 2009, Kirk Holden said…
"Take away from Genesis the belief that Moses was the author, on which only the strange believe that it is the word of God has stood, and there remains nothing of Genesis but an anonymous book of stories, fables, and traditionary or invented absurdities, or of downright lies."
Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason

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