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Seeking something that makes sense
Started this discussion. Last reply by Anastasia Vesperman May 19, 2012. 39 Replies 2 Likes
This is my first post and I want to say that I am new to even the idea of making a break from my religious upbringing and training. Though I grew up in the south, I was always devoted to my…Continue
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Teri G replied to Kevin's discussion 'Seeking something that makes sense'"I do not think that he is incapable of choosing his own purpose. I feel that many theists tend to label their personal purpose that they have assigned to themselves as the purpose that their god has put them on the Earth for. This is just a…"
Atheist Exile replied to Kevin's discussion 'Seeking something that makes sense'"@Mark Bujarski,
If you'd really like to have a discussion about the "reality of God" as a source of ethics and morality, then come to this new blog post. I guarantee you an interesting conversation.
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Cara Coleen replied to Kevin's discussion 'Seeking something that makes sense'"Mark, you should take the time to read everyone's responses. If you do that, you'll see that your assertions have already been discussed.
We do not accept the claim that purpose, meaning, or dignity are handed to us from some god. You…"
Heather Spoonheim replied to Kevin's discussion 'Seeking something that makes sense'"If a god existed then I suppose our ethics and morality could well be sourced from it - but our ethics and morality vary greatly between cultures and over time so it would seem that our ethics and morality are not based on some unchanging, universal…"
Mark Bujarski replied to Kevin's discussion 'Seeking something that makes sense'"We do not define our purpose. I could find purpose in whatever I set before, however, it is still empty and lacks substance. Purpose comes from God. If God exists than our ethics and morality are found solely in Him. If you would like to have a…"
Heather Spoonheim replied to Kevin's discussion 'Seeking something that makes sense'"We could just as easily find 'purpose' by believing that our President was the manifestation of The Grand Creator here on Earth - hey, it works in North Korea. That we might find purpose in an idea does not attest to its truth.…"
Mark Bujarski replied to Kevin's discussion 'Seeking something that makes sense'""All sacred, and so all deserving of respect and basic dignity." I quote you and say that you must use this same logic for the member of the Texas BofED. What you will find is very few people who call themselves Christian really search for…"
Shabaka Tecumseh replied to Kevin's discussion 'Seeking something that makes sense'"clear your mind and look in the mirror.."
Atheist Exile replied to Kevin's discussion 'Seeking something that makes sense'"I thought I was up to date on Dawkin's videos but I had not seen the one you linked to. It's really one of his better replies to this type of question. I've seen him flounder in this same situation before. It really was a great…"
Steve replied to Kevin's discussion 'Seeking something that makes sense'"There is another great talk on Biblical morality by him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYaQpRZJl18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkHuvErbpd0
The images in the videos are extremely fitting
Or Sam Harris on Christian…"
Reg The Fronkey Farmer replied to Kevin's discussion 'Seeking something that makes sense'"Hi Kevin - another take on morals with Christopher Hitchens esq. The last line is a classic."
Kevin replied to Kevin's discussion 'Seeking something that makes sense'"Everybody, thank you so much for your thoughful responses. You can't know how much it means to me."
Kevin replied to Kevin's discussion 'Seeking something that makes sense'"Thank you. Your reply brought tears to my eyes...really. I'm probably in the stage of confusion that you describe as I am still working in a church, but really feel like a big ol' hypocrite for doing so.
You write: "Humans…"
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