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The theory is very simple and clear – it states that the origin, essence and ongoing wellspring of religion is the experience of…"
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The entheogen theory of religion
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According to the entheogen theory of religion: religion is essentially rooted in the experience of intense psychedelic tripping, the world religions consist of collections of stories which serve as…Continue
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Jimmy replied to John Burrows's discussion 'The entheogen theory of religion'"While Huxley doesn't speak about psychedelics in "Perennial Philosophy," he does speak of these kind of experiences in terms of mystical experiences and mysticism. Alan Watts borrowed the term "cosmic consciousness" from…"
Jimmy replied to John Burrows's discussion 'The entheogen theory of religion'"I have a sort of different perspective on this. Since you've mentioned Gautama, I suppose I will start with Buddhism. If you look into Buddhism, Gautama isn't necessarily emphasized as the one appointed individual who is a "special…"
John Burrows replied to John Burrows's discussion 'The entheogen theory of religion'"@ Jimmy
“that's why I find this title "Entheogen Theory of Religion" to be somewhat misleading only if you interpret it through Huxey's "Perennial Philosophy."”
Bear in mind that Huxley wrote that book…"
John Burrows replied to John Burrows's discussion 'The entheogen theory of religion'"@ Jimmy
“Have you ever looked into the case of Ramana Maharshi or other practitioners of advaita vedanta? The insight they arrive at seem quite on par with the insight one takes from psychedelics”
Per the entheogen theory of religion,…"
Gallup's Mirror replied to John Burrows's discussion 'The entheogen theory of religion'"The claim: When the threshold dose is met, people have mystical experiences. The "test" is the acid trip. But you insist that unless the subject feels his acid trip was "mystical", as opposed to a having a secular interpretation…"
James Cox replied to John Burrows's discussion 'The entheogen theory of religion'"11. Thou shall not assume that a belief is true, because you believe it to be so. (Self Referencing)
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Gallup's Mirror replied to John Burrows's discussion 'The entheogen theory of religion'"...and not just religion, but the "true" magic mushroom religion. And it's unfalsifiable, untestable, exclusionary of science, and anyone who tries it and disagrees as to its religiosity is not a true scotsman. Not thought: faith.
Oh,…"
John Burrows replied to John Burrows's discussion 'The entheogen theory of religion'"@ Gallup's mirror
“Not religious experiences. Not mystical experiences.Mystical-type experiences.
Now what do you suppose is the difference between a mystical experience and a mystical-type experience? ”
There is no specific…"
Gallup's Mirror replied to John Burrows's discussion 'The entheogen theory of religion'"What the fuck, Daffy. Now you're saying one can have a mathematical experience? Are you now modifying your "guarantee" that one will undergo a religious or mystical experience to make room for scientific minds?
I've said it all…"
Gallup's Mirror replied to John Burrows's discussion 'The entheogen theory of religion'"Right. Like you know for a fact that 5 grams fills a cap, that the universe is a hologram, and that I can't see these quite apparent connections because I haven't properly blown my brains out on drugs, like a true Scotsman.
This, after you…"
Gallup's Mirror replied to John Burrows's discussion 'The entheogen theory of religion'"Then the name contains a built-in assumption fallacy, unless the person who named it also provided scientific evidence that God exists."
John Burrows replied to John Burrows's discussion 'The entheogen theory of religion'"@ Jimmy
Do you really believe that people can experience ego death just by meditating?"
John Burrows replied to John Burrows's discussion 'The entheogen theory of religion'"The Johns Hopkins study confirmed that psilocybin causes mystical type experiences, and that study was an update of the psilocybin study at Harvard in the sixties. It is very well established now that this is what the 'entheogenic' class…"
Gallup's Mirror replied to John Burrows's discussion 'The entheogen theory of religion'"Show me the evidence I am denying. Specifically, produce the scientific evidence for a religious experience while stoned, as opposed to a non-religious experience while stoned. Let's see it. Show me the proof I am denying.
That's the…"
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