"I came out at my NA home group around three years clean. Kind of a mixed response. Most have been supportive. I tried to capital B Believe for years. Guess I ask too many of the wrong sort of questions. I'm in a small community and I definitely…"
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Context of the question: I am a nursing student that was given a case study of alcoholism. The subject of the study claims to be atheist. Question: What are some therapeutic options for alcoholism…Continue
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Dustin replied to Jim Meier's discussion 'Alcoholics Anonymous and atheism'"Yes, Rosemary is correct. They have the same thing for other addiction programs. Sometimes, the family members can be hurt more than the one who was addicted. They need treatment too. "
Dustin replied to Jim Meier's discussion 'Alcoholics Anonymous and atheism'"AA says that their program is 100% effective. It's the no true scottsman fallacy ...
If you drift away from AA , then you didn't actually take the program seriously. If you attend all the meetings for 30 years and…"
Rosemary LYNDALL WEMM replied to Jim Meier's discussion 'Alcoholics Anonymous and atheism'"No. It's a support group for friends and family of alcholics."
Glenn Harris replied to Jim Meier's discussion 'Alcoholics Anonymous and atheism'"There is an organisation called AdAction who do not specialise in one area of addiction treatment and are purportedly atheist friendly. There are treatment centres in most large cities.
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Godless Conservative replied to Jim Meier's discussion 'Alcoholics Anonymous and atheism'"There is a secular offshoot of AA that includes the 12 steps. They just reword then in a way that is consistent with atheism.
There are also groups like Rational Recovery that have totally different programs, but actually better rates…"
Alan McGowan replied to Jim Meier's discussion 'Alcoholics Anonymous and atheism'"As a former addict my opinion is that addiction is not an illness, it's a compulsion based on fear of being without a crutch. Remove the fear and you remove the desire for the drug. It needs a subtle psychological shift…"
Angie the Anti-Theist replied to Jim Meier's discussion 'Alcoholics Anonymous and atheism'"They continually imply/state at the close of every single NA meeting that people who do not follow their particular religious abstinence program will end up in "jails, institutions, or death."
It is not the "take what you like, leave…"
Michael Andrews replied to Jim Meier's discussion 'Alcoholics Anonymous and atheism'"I agree completely with Holland's statement, "contact with previous friends will lead to relapse. even the ones who are not abusers will lead to contact of old bad habits. it is the whole old familiar environment that will lead to…"
Wayne Walker replied to Jim Meier's discussion 'Alcoholics Anonymous and atheism'"This and other papers seem to show rather clearly that no one should go to AA. While it may not be directly detrimental, it entails a great deal of effort for no apparent…"
Brian Wood replied to Jim Meier's discussion 'Alcoholics Anonymous and atheism'"First step in AA is "We admitted we were powerless over alcohol." I kept asking, "If I'm powerless over alcohol, how come I'm voluntarily in rehab?""
Lewis Smith replied to Jim Meier's discussion 'Alcoholics Anonymous and atheism'"Or if it's in a title, right? You could also capitalize it to show how Awesome it is maybe? ;D"
Lewis Smith replied to Jim Meier's discussion 'Alcoholics Anonymous and atheism'"Al-Anon I believe just means Alcoholics Anonymous. The 12 step program. That should be enough for google."
Isaac replied to Jim Meier's discussion 'Alcoholics Anonymous and atheism'"It should only be capitalized if it as at the beginning of a sentence. ;)"
justin gold replied to Jim Meier's discussion 'Alcoholics Anonymous and atheism'"My doctor in the u.k said to me when I had a really heavy drink problem about going to the A.A for help,but as soon as he said he mentioned it I said no- way as I knew what they were about,I don't know about the U.S but in…"
Nina van der Roos replied to Jim Meier's discussion 'Alcoholics Anonymous and atheism'"hello Angie, Please excuse my total ignorance but I had to look up what "Al-Anon" was being a non drinker from a non drinking family. You said "ex Al-Anon cult member" is it a cult and if so how so ?"
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