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Jeff Melton replied to Sydni Moser's discussion 'OK, I Take It Back -- We Don't All Have to Eat Vegan to Save the Planet' in the group Vegetarian & Vegan Atheist
"Who besides psychopaths doesn't believe that humans (once born, at least) have a right to life?  Such a belief is a part of every major document pertaining to human rights, from the US Declaration of Independence ("inalienable right…"
Aug 20, 2011
Jeff Melton replied to Sydni Moser's discussion 'OK, I Take It Back -- We Don't All Have to Eat Vegan to Save the Planet' in the group Vegetarian & Vegan Atheist
"Here are some sources you might want to take a look at if you're interested in the ethical arguments for veganism:   http://www.abolitionistapproach.com (see the pamphlet that's linked on the front…"
Aug 20, 2011
Jeff Melton replied to Sydni Moser's discussion 'OK, I Take It Back -- We Don't All Have to Eat Vegan to Save the Planet' in the group Vegetarian & Vegan Atheist
"Geez, Stephen, do you even read the things you post?  She stopped eating a vegan diet because she said she "felt like she WANTED that stuff," meaning dairy and eggs, and also craved sweets but didn't seem to care whether they had…"
Aug 20, 2011
Jeff Melton replied to Sydni Moser's discussion 'OK, I Take It Back -- We Don't All Have to Eat Vegan to Save the Planet' in the group Vegetarian & Vegan Atheist
"@Heather: Huh?"
Aug 20, 2011
Jeff Melton replied to Sydni Moser's discussion 'OK, I Take It Back -- We Don't All Have to Eat Vegan to Save the Planet' in the group Vegetarian & Vegan Atheist
"Prior to about age 1 1/2, human babies don't have self-awareness in the sense of being able to recognize themselves in a mirror, either.  Is it okay to eat babies because they lack that aspect of self-awareness?  I think not! …"
Aug 20, 2011
Jeff Melton replied to Sydni Moser's discussion 'OK, I Take It Back -- We Don't All Have to Eat Vegan to Save the Planet' in the group Vegetarian & Vegan Atheist
"Some dogs do and some don't appear to recognize themselves in the mirror.  Does that mean it's okay to kill and eat the dogs that don't recognize themselves?  This seems like a silly criterion.  Animals can recognize…"
Aug 20, 2011
Jeff Melton replied to Sydni Moser's discussion 'OK, I Take It Back -- We Don't All Have to Eat Vegan to Save the Planet' in the group Vegetarian & Vegan Atheist
"By that logic, babies and severely mentally retarded people should have no rights because they "are unable to reason to the point of identifying rights."  Do you really not understand how absurd this logic is?"
Aug 20, 2011
Jeff Melton replied to Sydni Moser's discussion 'OK, I Take It Back -- We Don't All Have to Eat Vegan to Save the Planet' in the group Vegetarian & Vegan Atheist
"The irony about your post is that you're doing the very same thing that oneinfinity just remarked about, viewing animals as objects or "things."  You're arguing that in the name of preserving species, we should go on…"
Aug 20, 2011
Jeff Melton replied to Sydni Moser's discussion 'OK, I Take It Back -- We Don't All Have to Eat Vegan to Save the Planet' in the group Vegetarian & Vegan Atheist
"So, if I kill you, that's completely okay, as long as I call it "farming" instead of "mistreatment" (or, perhaps, murder) and as long as I kill you for the purpose of eating you?"
Aug 20, 2011
Jeff Melton replied to Sydni Moser's discussion 'OK, I Take It Back -- We Don't All Have to Eat Vegan to Save the Planet' in the group Vegetarian & Vegan Atheist
"If you kill somebody's dog, they will be very angry at you, not only because you've robbed them of their companion animal, but because they rightfully consider killing him or her to be a form of mistreatment.  Arbitrarily ending an…"
Aug 20, 2011
Jeff Melton replied to Sydni Moser's discussion 'OK, I Take It Back -- We Don't All Have to Eat Vegan to Save the Planet' in the group Vegetarian & Vegan Atheist
"Even someone with no knowledge of nutrition other than what they learned in grade school can recognize as a matter of common sense or common knowledge that point 3 above is patently absurd.   Plant foods VARY--a LOT--in terms of their…"
Aug 20, 2011
Jeff Melton replied to Sydni Moser's discussion 'OK, I Take It Back -- We Don't All Have to Eat Vegan to Save the Planet' in the group Vegetarian & Vegan Atheist
"There's no such thing as humane animal farming.  In dairy farming, calves are taken from their mothers shortly after birth (and killed for meat soon thereafter) even in a "humane" dairy operation, because otherwise the calf would…"
Aug 20, 2011
Jeff Melton replied to Sydni Moser's discussion 'OK, I Take It Back -- We Don't All Have to Eat Vegan to Save the Planet' in the group Vegetarian & Vegan Atheist
"You claim that other species of animals aren't capable of contemplating life in the way we are, then you turn around and claim that since humans have always tended to hunt animals and eat meat to some extent, they shouldn't use that…"
Aug 20, 2011
Monica McGee (Monicks) left a comment for Jeff Melton
"Welcome to Think Atheist, Jeff! It is great to have you here. Message me, or tweet me (@Monicks), or contact any of the Moderators with any suggestions or questions. Make sure to search the Groups to find members interested in the same topics as…"
Aug 11, 2011
Jeff Melton replied to Sydni Moser's discussion 'OK, I Take It Back -- We Don't All Have to Eat Vegan to Save the Planet' in the group Vegetarian & Vegan Atheist
"It is unambiguously the case that commonly domesticated animals such as cows, dogs, etc. feel pain, fear, etc.  It is not even plausibly the case, let alone clearly, that plants have such feelings; you have cited two articles about plant…"
Aug 11, 2011
Jeff Melton replied to Sydni Moser's discussion 'OK, I Take It Back -- We Don't All Have to Eat Vegan to Save the Planet' in the group Vegetarian & Vegan Atheist
"I recognize that a coral snake has a red, black and yellow color pattern.  I don't go near it because I have information indicating that snakes with that color pattern are poisonous.  What does this have to do with feeling pain? …"
Aug 10, 2011

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Your Religious Status
Atheist
About Me:
I'm vegan, atheist, socialist, and lots of other not-very-popular things.
Age
47-52
Why are you here?
To have interesting philosophical discussions
The religion you left
Christian

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At 4:08pm on August 11, 2011, Monica McGee (Monicks) said…

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