"When we find an arrow head we can see that something created it. The chances of an arrow head being created by some rocks falling down a cliff and hitting each other just right are just astronomical so we assume that it was created by man an…"

"and I did visit your site, please something recent??   Aha. I note that you claimed that "it's never happened", and now you want "something recent"?   None of those countries provided fit the model of true secular…"

"Remember, democracies don't go to war with other democracies. It's never happened.   There's an incomplete list of past wars between democracies here. I could add some more, like the South Ossetian War (Russia/Georgia, 2008) -…"

"We (the west) are in these countries because they have natural resources we want.   It's a bit more complex than that - for instance, it would take more than Iraqi oil to pay for the Iraq war, and it would have been far more efficient to…"

"No, this commentator has noticed something quite insidious creeping into our Western way of reasoning and penetrates most detrimentally into our schools and news media, its all pervasive, a kind of uncritical political correctness mixed with…"

"Might as well try to remove patriarchy as well - so I suggest emasculation."

"- The US is the de-facto ruler of a world empire at this moment, and has been for over 60 years. As such, it is the most benign (by far) empire ever to have existed on Earth.   Benign, in what respect? Human rights, say? Sure. But what we have…"

"How is the nature of 'real democracy' relevant to this part of the discussion? I'm afraid you missed the point again - which was, the main reason the Western world send troops to the Middle West or elsewhere is not to give…"

"If your point is that democracy in Northern Europe evolved out of theocratic papal power they usurped through their Lutheran churches - I'd say it looks like a bit of a stretch. There may be more than a single cause to a given effect. E.g., try…"

"Technically, you might say that, but it never was anything like real theocracy. European monarchs who appointed themselves head of the church did so to control the clergy, not the other way around. If there was anything like persistent theocracy or…"

"Not to my knowledge. All I know is that in the case of Norway and Denmark, the ruling monarchs also rules over the Church, but their power over state affairs is constutionally limited - both as head of state and head of the Church."

"Reminds me that there are still state churches in secular heavens like Denmark and Norway (and even Sweden until recently.) How ironic."

"(1) Ajax was part of a series of events that started with the Abadan blockade and culminated with the ousting of Mossadegh and the transition to an authoritarian regime, so in the end, it was indeed succesful. But even that is besides the point:…"

"... giving the people the opportunity to live in freedom and decide on their own future.   You mean, like Operation Ajax? Without it, Iran might well have been a secular democracy today. Talk about wasted opportunities. We often don't like…"

"Revelations also tells us that Jesus will come a second time and take all his people to Heaven.   "I'll be back." BANG. BANG. BANG. Same story in fewer words. Occam tells us that Arnold trumps Jesus."