"At age two my son had to be circumcised because of medical problems, it was a horrible op he had 9 stitches "dissolving stitches" 5 years after the op we were still taking stitches out that did not dissolve. After this I would not do it…"
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Should we teach Santa Claus?
Started this discussion. Last reply by Kir Komrik Nov 13, 2012. 30 Replies 0 Likes
I am the host of Speak Atheist, http://speakatheist.com and we are planning on doing a show next week on Santa Claus and wether or not atheists should tell their…Continue
Is there even a point to debate Christians?
Started this discussion. Last reply by Fadi Qassis Jun 8, 2012. 43 Replies 3 Likes
Most of my friends on Facebook are my old christian friends. I find that I cannot post anything even remotely atheist in nature without being drug into a debate. At first I thought, I figured it out,…Continue
Tags: angry, debate, creationism
Should we circumcise?
Started this discussion. Last reply by Jorita Apr 17. 427 Replies 0 Likes
My wife and I are trying to have a baby. One of the biggest concerns we have if it is a boy is circumcision. I am circumcised and my first reaction is to say "Well I wouldn't go back so it is the…Continue
Tags: mutilation, circumcision
Fighting the Engrained Fear of Hell
Started this discussion. Last reply by mwifjsyi May 28, 2012. 15 Replies 0 Likes
Since childhood, I had the fear of going to hell pushed down my throat. I was taught about how it is non stop torture and everything unpleasant. I was a devout believer for a long time until about 5…Continue
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archaeopteryx replied to Jaret's discussion 'Should we circumcise?'"On the whole, I agree, unless or course, the doctor actually botched the job, and I read one account in which that may well have been the case. I don't know how successful such a lawsuit would be, but other than an actual malpracticing doctor,…"
Dr.Grixis replied to Jaret's discussion 'Should we circumcise?'"That website is a bit weird indeed, still, i find any malpractice resulting from a unnecessary cultural practice that removes an intact part of the body a very sad thing indeed."
Kris Feenstra replied to Jaret's discussion 'Should we circumcise?'"It's more entertaining (imo) paired with rebuttal and subsequent exchange:http://circumcisionnews.blogspot.ca/2010/04/20-reasons-revisited.html
Also interesting that there was a link provided to a class action…"
archaeopteryx replied to Jaret's discussion 'Should we circumcise?'"I realize this is an old topic, but I misplaced the URL to a site that responds thoroughly and definitively to this issue, which I've now recovered, and would be remiss if I did not share it with any who might have an interest.
Sagacious Hawk,…"
Heather Spoonheim replied to Jaret's discussion 'Should we circumcise?'"I've never claimed that I'm not sciency - I've simply claimed that I'm not an actual scientist and do not feel that my failure to believe in fairy tales should require my having to prove scientific theories."
Pope OoO (Out of Order) replied to Jaret's discussion 'Should we circumcise?'"Wow, 35 pages was quite a read. Felt like a 2 season marathon.
Heather I thought remembered you saying you're not a sciency person, but you did pretty well here.
I'm cut, wish I wasn't, but it's not a big deal. I would have…"
archaeopteryx replied to Jaret's discussion 'Should we circumcise?'"Not only that, but it REALLY smarts!"
Mallory replied to Jaret's discussion 'Should we circumcise?'"There's no law that says circumcision can only occur in infancy. Let the kid decide for himself when he's thirteen.
Think about it rationally - you are cutting off part of your son's body, and as much as 70% of his sexually…"
john mcdonald replied to Jaret's discussion 'Should we circumcise?'"I saw a circumcision in Israel some years ago, blood was everywhere, the baby was howling apoplectically, the dude doing the chopping was in religious bliss, what a circus. I am not circumcised. I was brought up in Britain. One is not circumcised by…"
Unseen replied to Jaret's discussion 'Should we circumcise?'"I've been told that oral sex is more appetizing when one doesn't have to pull the loose skin down only possibly to be confronted with smegma (a paste consisting of a combination of sweat, dead skin, and whatever microbes may have been…"
Unseen replied to Jaret's discussion 'Should we circumcise?'"I don't think it's entirely true that there is "absolutely no positive outcome for the child whatsoever."
Read this.
Now, I'm not arguing positively FOR circumcision, but I do think you're head is in the sand…"
Belle Rose replied to Jaret's discussion 'Should we circumcise?'"Oh yah, and to address your concern about women thinking an uncircumcised penis is ugly, I call bullshit. Besides, it's all in how you use it, LOL!!"
Belle Rose replied to Jaret's discussion 'Should we circumcise?'"DON'T DO IT!!!!!!! Do you really want your newborn baby recovering from birth AND surgery at the same time? Circumcision is an unnecessary and very painful practiice with absolutely no positive outcome for the child whatsoever. PLEASE…"
Shark Bear replied to Jaret's discussion 'Should we circumcise?'"For the love of god don't do it! :)
But seriously as someone who is only missing his tonsils and adenoids I am glad to be au naturel. "
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- I was once a very devout christian. I studied the Bible every day. I didn't cuss. I was abstinent. I fasted 3 days a week. I was on my way to be a youth minister. This went on most of my life. Through my religious studies, I constantly found flaws with the Bible and Christianity that I could not reconcile. One day I decided to take the belief goggles off for just one second. I never put them back on.
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- I live in a very Christian town. I would guess there is probably less than 1% atheist here. I am a professional and I literally have to hide my atheism at work and in business because it would ruin my career to expose myself. But it is hard to keep everything bottled up.
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- The people are evil. The Bible is flawed. The dogma is flawed. Facts outweighed irrational belief.
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- At 2:58pm on June 26, 2012,
Melissa Mays said… - Many of our outspoken atheist/agnostics admit to having met actual ministers and other clergy who are no longer believers.. but who are unable to leave their livelihood. Understandable; but sad.
- At 6:18am on June 5, 2012,
Nate Lundgren said… Welcome, glad you are here. Have fun :)
- At 2:39pm on June 2, 2012,
peter edmead said… And then more recent research at the university of Washington found the exact opposite and that circumcision does not affect HPV infection! See http://mondofown.blogspot.co.uk/2011/09/hpv-infections-findings-of-thorough.html
The trouble is, of course, with the convience of the internet, you can always cherry pick to get information that backs up your argument - and points of view start to take on the characteristics of a religion!
Nevertheless, I hope I have an open mind, and the internet really helped me look into the background of this issue over the past few years - and I now stand by the view that circumcision is an old practice - with its roots in religion, which in 100 years time, we will look back and say "did we really do that to our children?"
Some good references - and beware of convienient research findings that have been sponsored by a members of the anti-circumcision or pro-circumcision lobbies!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision_controversies
http://endmalecircumcision.blogspot.co.uk/
- At 2:15pm on June 2, 2012, peter edmead said…
And then more recent research (2011) at The University of Washington - that has found that male circumcision has no effect on human papillomavirus (HPV) infection rates!! i.e. the complete opposite!
The problem is that you can cherry pick the references you want these days to justify a point of view. You have to be careful that you keep an open mind. Otherwise a points of view like this starts to take on the characteristics of a religion!!!
Some good background reading here!
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