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OBL Killing & Relgious tones from Obama Admin.
Started this discussion. Last reply by Frank May 5, 2011. 33 Replies 1 Like
I'm a bit perplexed and disappointed that Obama closed with "in God we trust" and "God bless America" at end of televised announcement of OBL killing. Then I read that the VP was fingering rosary…Continue
What a Load of Gibberish Crap: Believe It or Not by David Hart
Started this discussion. Last reply by Graham E. Lau Apr 24, 2010. 5 Replies 0 Likes
Want a good chuckle? Read this load of poo poo, Believe It or Not.…Continue
A New Christianity?
Started this discussion. Last reply by Apple Mar 29, 2010. 3 Replies 0 Likes
Reading and listening to this NPR coverage, Jesus Reconsidered, about author and evangelist…Continue
Humanist vs. Atheists?
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I have read this article published today in the Huffington Post, Secular Humanist Takes on New…Continue
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Mo Trauen replied to Frank's discussion 'OBL Killing & Relgious tones from Obama Admin.'"He and Biden have both figured out that pandering to the religious is the way to get elected and re-elected. I hope this will change one day, and soon, but for now it is a reality."
Rosemary LYNDALL WEMM replied to Frank's discussion 'OBL Killing & Relgious tones from Obama Admin.'"Perhaps you should not believe everything you hear or read :-)
Why on earth would a non-Catholic "finger rosary beads"? Get real!"
Arcus replied to Frank's discussion 'OBL Killing & Relgious tones from Obama Admin.'"Perhaps he is, but he was too busy ensuring the maneuvering of a football into the hands of a wide receiver to focus on planespotting. ;)"
Arcus replied to Frank's discussion 'OBL Killing & Relgious tones from Obama Admin.'"I'll take a less-than-truthful secularly sane democrat over a truthful religiously insane neo-con any day. ;)"
Robert Karp replied to Frank's discussion 'OBL Killing & Relgious tones from Obama Admin.'"No sure why this surprises you Frank? The US is one of the most religious countries in the world. One of the most non-secular. If Obama did not say this, all hell would break lose from the religious community."
Jim Minion replied to Frank's discussion 'OBL Killing & Relgious tones from Obama Admin.'"Death to the infidels and god loves us has worked for thousands of years, why change what isn't broken from a politicians point of view."
Janet Richter replied to Frank's discussion 'OBL Killing & Relgious tones from Obama Admin.'"Our government is not secular. It should be as that is part and parcel with the separation of church and state, but it is not. "In God We Trust" is stamped on our coins and currency. One nation, under God, is part…"
Allanon6666 replied to Frank's discussion 'OBL Killing & Relgious tones from Obama Admin.'"Of course, some of us just don't like his policies, but now I'm getting off topic.
What Alissa said (and what I was trying to get at in my first post that I now look at and realize that I only said it very vaguely) is probably what…"
Jon Heim replied to Frank's discussion 'OBL Killing & Relgious tones from Obama Admin.'"why? oh, im used to that..i just thought obama was a little more supportive of secularism then say, bush was."
Dustin replied to Frank's discussion 'OBL Killing & Relgious tones from Obama Admin.'"We all know God can't stop a couple airliner jets from crashing into large buildings , but he can quite delicately maneuver a football into the hands of any wide receive that thanks him afterwards for it.
Oh , and God is watching…"
Jesus Lee Roth replied to Frank's discussion 'OBL Killing & Relgious tones from Obama Admin.'"If he had left the "under God" part out, the right wing would have been all over him. Even if he is a non-believer (as Bill Maher believes), he has to say those things. If an atheist was ever to run for office he/she would have to lie. Not…"
Sassan K. replied to Frank's discussion 'OBL Killing & Relgious tones from Obama Admin.'"It's annoying but what can we do. It is what it is. The bottom line is the government is not religious and does not make decisions based on religion."
Emmy Ellison replied to Frank's discussion 'OBL Killing & Relgious tones from Obama Admin.'"How about saying "united we stand, one nation, indivisible... and today justice was finally obtained for all!" Yea, maybe a bit cheesy, but it sure isn't offensive to an entire group of people!"
Alexandre Dias replied to Frank's discussion 'OBL Killing & Relgious tones from Obama Admin.'"I had the same feeling. It's frustrating..."
Frank commented on Galen's blog post 'Everybody Draw Mohammed Day'"The real asses are those that believe in superstition and supernatural hogwash that destroys minds and societal wellbeing. Mohammed is just a fictional character, nothing more."
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