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Criticize the ideology, not the person?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Erock68la 7 hours ago. 28 Replies

I find myself having mixed feelings about this idea of “criticize the ideology, not the person” when discussing religion.  I guess it’s politically correct to look at it that way, but I wonder if…Continue

Is it possible to have a civil discussion of ideas with believers?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Andy Hoke Jun 4. 6 Replies

“I'll tell you what you did with Atheists for about 1500 years. You outlawed them from the universities or any teaching careers, besmirched their reputations, banned or burned their books or their…Continue

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Erock68la replied to Erock68la's discussion 'Criticize the ideology, not the person?'
"In my work, when dealing with clients with deep-set persistent delusional beliefs it is not helpful to challenge the delusion itself. It is more useful to try to identify the needs the person is trying to get met through their delusion. For example,…"
7 hours ago
Erock68la replied to Seth Richardson's discussion 'conspiracy theories'
"In another thread about nuclear power, I think it was Unseen that made the point. I think he meant the energy used in the whole process from mining/refining raw materials to shipping to charging the battery."
7 hours ago
Virgil replied to Erock68la's discussion 'Criticize the ideology, not the person?'
"you and I would make a fine team then Reg.  I liked the video and bookmarked it.  Here's a link you may like.  very short parable.  fifty words maybe. http://journeyintoyoursoul.wordpress.com/2011/09/03/zen-koan-a-cup-of-tea/"
7 hours ago
Reg The Fronkey Farmer replied to Erock68la's discussion 'Criticize the ideology, not the person?'
"There is a greater chance of a Rottweiler letting go of a trespasser than there is of me allowing a theist off the hook when start telling me that something they believe is the truth or that something I have said is not correct. I will…"
8 hours ago
Virgil replied to Erock68la's discussion 'Criticize the ideology, not the person?'
"same here Reg.  Lots of people like to hope I will forget something indefensible they said and move on.... mmmm not NO but HELL NO.  If you spoke the words you have to back them up otherwise people go around saying and believing things…"
9 hours ago
Virgil replied to Erock68la's discussion 'Criticize the ideology, not the person?'
"Reply by Erock68la on Thursday But my question is why NOT criticize the person?  Is it not possible to point out in a constructive way that their idea is perhaps not worthy of them?  Rather than picking apart WHAT they believe,…"
9 hours ago
Erock68la replied to Seth Richardson's discussion 'conspiracy theories'
"Ok, good. Earlier it sounded like you were dismissing all conspiracy theories as crackpot. But you do recognize that actual conspiracies do happen. I would guess there are many more that are never uncovered."
9 hours ago
Erock68la replied to Seth Richardson's discussion 'conspiracy theories'
"Of course Apple is profitable. Not sure it's good for everybody, though. Take the iphone. There's the chinese slave labor that makes them under deplorable working and non-existent safety conditions. There's the batteries that will be…"
10 hours ago
Erock68la replied to Roy Plisko's discussion 'What is the Destiny of Intelligence?'
"Maybe we should go ahead and create artificial intelligence and let it take the ball and run with it."
yesterday
Erock68la replied to Seth Richardson's discussion 'conspiracy theories'
"Government officials and corporate officers change places back and forth constantly. When lawmakers finish their careers in congress they go work as consultants, if not actual board members, for the very same corporations they deregulated or created…"
yesterday
Erock68la replied to Seth Richardson's discussion 'conspiracy theories'
"Ah capitalism - the idea that the greediest people with the most selfish motives will do what's best for everybody."
yesterday
Pope Beanie replied to Erock68la's discussion 'Criticize the ideology, not the person?'
"More power to you! Why not encourage multiple approaches? I'd rather see if I can help them with their critical thinking, and it's okay with me if they come back for more discussion. This shouldn't be a tribal atheist thing, where…"
Thursday
Reg The Fronkey Farmer replied to Erock68la's discussion 'Criticize the ideology, not the person?'
""I INSIST they defend what they say and believe and I do it relentlessly"....Got time for a few cold beers man....:-)"
Thursday
Erock68la replied to Erock68la's discussion 'Criticize the ideology, not the person?'
"But my question is why NOT criticize the person?  Is it not possible to point out in a constructive way that their idea is perhaps not worthy of them?  Rather than picking apart WHAT they believe, can we not ask what's wrong with YOU…"
Thursday
Erock68la replied to Haugurma's discussion 'Why do we want to show people they are wrong?'
"Yep, it's orthodox, and hypocritical.  Meaning that's the official party line; it's just not what they do. That's a nice verse there.  I wonder if there are any other verses that contradict it."
Wednesday
ɐuɐz ǝllǝıuɐp replied to Erock68la's discussion 'Criticize the ideology, not the person?'
"For me hat I have experienced through life as an individual, even what my parents did to me , such as doing forced surgery on me a month after I was born, hoping that it would not effect the rest of my childhood, and what they did was right with…"
Tuesday

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