D R Hosie
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Church Takes Down It's Cross

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About Me:
A lifelong Iconoclastic Philosopher, and Born Again-Atheist Blogger.
Why are you here?
For political venue and social discussion.
The religion you left
Why you left your religion.
I walked away from the moron (sic) church some 40 years ago. However, I didn't request removal of my name / excommunication, until sometime later.

That was precipitated by a climate of political and human rights differences, that peaked with the excommunication of Sonia Johnson by the LDS Church in 1979.

That her outspoken support for the Equal Rights Amendment was in direct opposition to the church's stated position on the issue, it was made abundantly clear that women were expected to remain subordinate to the direction of (their) men, and the church leaders, in all such matters.

So, it was largely a Freedom Of Speech thing with me - though I sugarcoat it.
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Favorite Quote: Aldous Huxley - The Devils of Loudon

" The idolatrous transformation - of the relative into the absolute, and the all-too-human into the divine - makes it possible for man to indulge his ugliest passion, in the firm belief that he is working for the highest good."


A couple of my favorite poems:

all ignorance toboggans into know - e. e. cummings (1894 - 1962)

all ignorance toboggans into know
and trudges up to ignorance again:
but winter's not forever, even snow melts;
and if spring should spoil the game, what then?

all history's a winter sport or three:
but were it five, i'd still insist that all
history is too small for even me;
for me and you, exceedingly too small.

Swoop (shrill collective myth) into thy grave
merely to toil the scale to shrillerness
per every madgeandmabel dickanddave
--tomorrow is our permanent address

and there they'll scarcely find us (if they do,
we'll move away still further - into now
- -

From the 2nd Epistle, of his Essay on Man: - Alexander Pope (1688 - 1744)

Know then thyself, presume not God to scan,
The proper study of mankind is Man.
Placed on this isthmus of a middle state,
A being darkly wise and rudely great:
With too much knowledge for the Sceptic side,
With too much weakness for the Stoic's pride,
He hangs between, in doubt to act or rest;
In doubt to deem himself a God or Beast;
In doubt his mind or body to prefer;
Born but to die, and reas'ning but to err;
Alike in ignorance, his reason such,
Whether he thinks too little or too much;
Chaos of thought and passion, all confused;
Still by himself abused or disabused;
Created half to rise, and half to fall:
Great lord of all things, yet a prey to all;
Sole judge of truth, in endless error hurl'd;
The glory, jest, and riddle of the world!
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At 2:58am on September 14, 2013, T A A said…

Hello. Pardon the intrusion, but I have a little quibble :)
I've liked several of your posts, specially that God of Gaps one, so I was surprised by your HOOAHing about Manning. My respect for Manning has fallen. I do not feel sincerity in the new move, I see it as a attempt at a mental health issue GetOutOfJail card. To return to your GoG article, I bring your attention to an interesting sentence: "Through cultural exposure and clues deduced, it gets assimilated at about the same level as language and gender schema."This author rightly (according to the science of biology) distinguishes between biological sex and the social construct of gender. Gender is a social construct that is learned. If it is not taught (as in my family who failed to teach faith or gender, I am free of both, I never drank either koolaid (though I did for a short time find horoscope reading appealing, but I dropped that quickly). Gender is really therefore just like a religion, it is taught, and when it's taught wrong (by all the incompetent parents/peers/religious people) it causes a mental riff, a cognitive disconnect between the science, and what we feel... just like a scientist who believes in ghosts, there is the reality, and there is the delusion. I now refuse to answer gender questions, because I find the very concept of genderfication insulting. I will however answer sex questions. The intersex crowd are none too happy about how the trans crowd have tried to confound the two conditions and attempt to get the same validation. The genital mutilations performed on intersexed people is horrifying, but if the trans crowd had their way, we'd be mutilating a whole lot more. I realise this is a terribly controversial topic. And trans activists are making political headway much faster than the homo activists ever accomplished, because there's a lot of homophobic and misogynist male power behind the movement. Gender-as-religion is a topic I think atheist groups should address. I don't suppose you agree with anything I'm saying here... but I'm writing you just on the off chance that you'd be willing to have a civilised scientific conversation on the topic. If not, I won't address this with you again. Yours truly,

At 12:22pm on September 13, 2013, Strega said…

No worries Donnie, you've been a good member for a long time :)

At 3:23pm on August 24, 2013, Strega said…

Hi D R Hosie

If you continue to post the same statement on every different group you can find, your account will be suspended for 48 hours.


At 7:04pm on December 31, 2010, Julien said…
Happy New Year, D R!
At 7:17am on October 2, 2010, Sydni Moser said…
Thanks for the friend request, it is my pleasure.

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