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Conformity is immoral
Started this discussion. Last reply by Carwyn Mundee Nov 12, 2009. 11 Replies 0 Likes
Yes, the word 'conformity' has the stigma of being used only by alternative-loving teenagers. But really, think about it. It is conformity that breeds judgemental behaviour and tribalism, and thus…Continue
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Carwyn Mundee replied to Andy's discussion 'Formulating a moral code from the ground up'"In way we are, able to bring in support from evolution and other things, but do they explain the exitence of morality or do they present an actual moral code? If not then this discussion is still necessary."
Carwyn Mundee replied to Andy's discussion 'Formulating a moral code from the ground up'"Dam I can't edit it anymore..."
Carwyn Mundee replied to Andy's discussion 'Formulating a moral code from the ground up'"I'm going to rattle on a bit as if I have the undeniable truth, but I don't know how else to put it.
Through experience I've come to the conclusion that there is a basic moral law that everyone on some fundamental level is aware of,…"
Carwyn Mundee replied to meme's discussion 'Should the wealthier members of society'"In a Socialist system you couldn't quit because it equalises all who work, as far as I know the unemployed aren't helped.
I agree with the welfare state. A comfortable standard of living is to me a human right, no matter if you work or…"
Carwyn Mundee replied to Carwyn Mundee's discussion 'Conformity is immoral'"I'd love to be a world traveller, it's something I aspire to do when I leave education. Is it plausible on an average income?
I wouldn't live in a place who's laws I couldn't abide by either. Comformity in such scenarios is…"
Carwyn Mundee replied to Carwyn Mundee's discussion 'Conformity is immoral'"We drive on the same road as everyone else because it is beneficial to our health, not because it is a norm. I'm not villifying every norm, I'm villifying the idea that something being a norm makes it more valid for that reason. If you…"
Reggie replied to Carwyn Mundee's discussion 'Conformity is immoral'"No problem. I figured that was what you meant. Some people generalize for ease of conversation and some people generalize because that is how they see the world. Good to know that you are not the latter. :)"
Misty: Baytheist Living! replied to Carwyn Mundee's discussion 'Conformity is immoral'"But conforming to the norm of the new country would have negated the need for the idea of 'honor' entirely. Likewise, while no longer in the culture of 'honor' there is no pressure (except for the internalized) for such barbaric…"
Kirk Holden replied to Carwyn Mundee's discussion 'Conformity is immoral'"If you buck the "don't shit where you eat" convention you should have antibiotics on hand.
If you cannot stand to drive on the same side of the road as everyone around you (an arbitrary convention to be sure) you might want to mount a…"
Carwyn Mundee replied to Carwyn Mundee's discussion 'Conformity is immoral'"@ Wendy + Reggie: Yeah, then I agree with you completely. I guess I didn't really express myself very clearly. I'm attacking the positive perception of conformity itself, if you get what I mean. The unwillingness to defying societal norms…"
Reggie replied to Carwyn Mundee's discussion 'Conformity is immoral'"Yeah, that about sums it up, you mind reader. ;)"
Misty: Baytheist Living! replied to Carwyn Mundee's discussion 'Conformity is immoral'"I can think of at least one case where conformity trumps individuality:
Honor killings.
They are happening with growing frequency in America, based on the woman becoming 'more westernized'
Here is an idea.
Don't immigrate if you think…"
Wendy replied to Carwyn Mundee's discussion 'Conformity is immoral'"I'm going to presume to answer for Reggie, simply because I've read enough of his posts to think we share a similar thought process.
Nothing is ever good just because it is what it is. Okay, that came out very babble-y. Most of us…"
Carwyn Mundee replied to Carwyn Mundee's discussion 'Conformity is immoral'"Why thank you! I like this place.
Do you mean that some social norms have a purpose or that the act of conforming itself has a purpose? What I mean is, are you saying that some social norms are good because of whatever reason or that they're…"
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