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In Defense of ‘Islamophobia’

Started this discussion. Last reply by Pope Beanie yesterday. 40 Replies

There have been a lot of articles recently which take people like R. Dawkins, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Bill Maher and Sam Harris to task for being intolerant, hateful etc.  The tortured logic and subtle…Continue

AACon 2014

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Been at AACon in Salt Lake for the past two days, and while I've been generally in agreement with the vast majority of what's been said, I've also been generally unimpressed by the guests' speeches. …Continue

Secular coming-of-age ceremony for the 21st century

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This article appeared recently in The Atlantic:…Continue

Utah: Land of the squeamish, home of the Crazy

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December is usually when The Crazy is most prominently on display in dear Utah, but the shockingly abrupt court decision that had our county clerks' offices overflowing and Rachel Maddow all but…Continue

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Pope Beanie replied to Brian Daurelle's discussion 'In Defense of ‘Islamophobia’'
"Recently I've been finding myself justifying prejudice against Islam above all other religions. For a more rational perspective, I can only back out to assess a bigger picture. As atheists, it's rational to point to Islam as today's…"
yesterday
Erock68la replied to Brian Daurelle's discussion 'In Defense of ‘Islamophobia’'
"@Davis If you're asking me, I'd say those are rational fears so not phobias by that criterion. It might be a phobia if you, say, break into a cold trembling sweat when you see a man with a beard or if you run screaming from a picture of a…"
Sunday
Davis Goodman replied to Brian Daurelle's discussion 'In Defense of ‘Islamophobia’'
"Some of these acts are permitted in the Koran though they are optional. That's what I meant by Islamic impunity for cruelty. Female genital mutilation is permitted by the Hadiths (which are purported saying or commentary on the Koran by…"
Sunday
Davis Goodman replied to Brian Daurelle's discussion 'In Defense of ‘Islamophobia’'
"What about: Talibanphobia Sharia-phobia Islamic-state-phobia Female-genital-mutilation-phobia Honour-killings-phobia Are those irrational fears?"
Saturday
Unseen replied to Brian Daurelle's discussion 'In Defense of ‘Islamophobia’'
"the intent of the term is to make the fearful person appear silly or hysterical or bigoted The lexicographers haven't caught up with your interpretation yet, it seems. At any rate, the key word there is "appear." Appearance is not the…"
Saturday
Erock68la replied to Brian Daurelle's discussion 'In Defense of ‘Islamophobia’'
"Wouldn't "extreme" mean to an unreasonable degree? Either way, the intent of the term is to make the fearful person appear silly or hysterical or bigoted; it attempts to delegitimize any reasonable and proportional fear."
Saturday
Unseen replied to Brian Daurelle's discussion 'In Defense of ‘Islamophobia’'
"According to a couple online dictionary sites, a phobia is "an extreme OR irrational fear" (emphasis mine). Note that "extreme" and "irrational" are disjoined, not conjoined. So, the fear can be just extreme and…"
Saturday
Erock68la replied to Brian Daurelle's discussion 'In Defense of ‘Islamophobia’'
"Since a phobia is an irrational fear, islamophobia would be incorrect. There is plenty to reasonably fear from islamic fundamentalist extremists."
Saturday
Unseen replied to Brian Daurelle's discussion 'In Defense of ‘Islamophobia’'
"If fear of Islam (Islamophobia) is false or wrong, then ipso facto there is nothing to fear in Islam.I don't think you really addressed that argument. Let me rephrase it in the obverse: If there is a factual basis for fear of Islam, then…"
Saturday
Biomirth replied to Brian Daurelle's discussion 'In Defense of ‘Islamophobia’'
"Fear isn't that simple. There can be things which are reasonable to be fearful of which are also reasonable to not be fearful of. Death, for instance. Secondly, giving up a fear does not mean there is nothing to fear. A person afraid of snakes,…"
Saturday
Unseen replied to Brian Daurelle's discussion 'In Defense of ‘Islamophobia’'
"I like to boil things down to something simple. What about this very simple argument: If fear of Islam (Islamophobia) is false or wrong, then ipso facto there is nothing to fear in Islam. What is the answer to that simple syllogism?"
Friday
AV Veratu replied to Brian Daurelle's discussion 'In Defense of ‘Islamophobia’'
"No true Scots-man by the looks of it. Its Sunni vs Shiite. The division happened at the death of Mohammed, some wanted to keep the leadership in his family(Shiite) and some wanted to elect a leader(Sunni) The one does not recognize the other."
Friday
Pope Beanie replied to Brian Daurelle's discussion 'In Defense of ‘Islamophobia’'
"Fwiw, TWO events combined to make the critical mass of my need to identify explicitly with atheism: 9/11 in Allah's name and Bush's divinely-excused vengeance on Iraq."
Friday
Biomirth replied to Brian Daurelle's discussion 'In Defense of ‘Islamophobia’'
"Are you defending "Islamophobia"? I think the title is a bit too subtle. Otherwise I enjoyed the essay. It feels like a section from a larger work covering more angles of the "Strong Secularist vs. Islam" debate as it occurs in…"
Friday
Simon Mathews replied to Brian Daurelle's discussion 'In Defense of ‘Islamophobia’'
"This is what I'm interested in. Davis, you mentioned you have had experience of living in such a culture. If all this stuff is not prescribed by the Koran where does it come from? Is it just the usual powerful old men making up the rules as…"
Friday
Pope Beanie replied to Brian Daurelle's discussion 'In Defense of ‘Islamophobia’'
"I'm absolutely onboard to condem specific behaviors!"
Friday

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Music is my religion! (But not really!)
Age
19-24
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Single
Why are you here?
To gain the comforts that I can't bring myself to get from religion... the existance of like-minded people.
The religion you left
Mormonism
Why you left your religion.
Because it's patently false.
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