"You can't say Descartes is wrong without undermining your entire reality.
"I think, therefore I am." If you cannot even be sure if this is right, or an illusion, how can you trust your other senses? What if the whole world were an…"
"I'm not suggesting that there is some kind of "cosmic encyclopedia".
I'm suggesting that there is a fourth dimension (at least) of thought. Perhaps more. Music? Pathos? Time? I don't think the world can sufficiently be…"
"Well, I wouldn't necessarily go that far.
It seems to me that it is intellectual laziness to accept monism on its face, without giving it a rigourous beating to make sure we are right, which is what I am trying to do. I haven't made any…"
"The physical world obviously follows these rules. If I drop a pen, it falls. The rules exist in some sense. Where do they exist?
If they only exist in our minds as models, fine. But, why are they allowed to exist infinitely in time, like matter, but…"
"Perhaps, but then why do we like seeing tigers in a zoo, or are interested in preserving them? From an evolutionary standpoint that runs false surely? In an evolutionary sense we ought to be trying to make them extinct! They're fucking…"
"That's fair. I guess my problem is the idea that mathematical and physical laws, pi etc. don't actually exist anywhere but have effects on the material world is troublesome for me. Thanks anyway. Looks like I need to study more..."
"Your concept of the table is just that - your concept/perception; a reflection of something that exists in reality. Our minds reflect reality with many patterns - but those patterns are just that - patterns, not a table.
That reflection is…"
"But my other perceptions are perceptions of real things (or in the case of memory, things which happened). If those perceptions are "real" why is pi not?
We can say that we can not know if any of them are real, they still…"
"I'm not for or against any specific position. I'm not arguing for dualism.
You asked how pi would exist except as a concept. If mathematical concepts do exist we have to give them a place. If they do not have a place, how can they be said…"