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Formulating a moral code from the ground up

Started this discussion. Last reply by Carwyn Mundee Dec 4, 2009. 20 Replies

At the simplest level I would define a Moral Code as…“A set of rules, relating to specific actions, which can be applied to prevent you from realising a desire to enact those actions, such that the…Continue

Tags: #Psychology, #Philosophy, #Ethics

Why don't believers become Agnostics?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Skycomet the Fallen Angel Nov 19, 2009. 3 Replies

Why doesn't this recipe always work?1. Take one Believer, and place him in isolated idea mixing bowl.2. Sift in all the contradictions in their holy Texts.3. Pour in the history of their religion,…Continue

Tags: cooking, Agnostism, Religon, Conversion

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Andy replied to Laura's discussion 'Girls of Think Atheist Calendar 2010'
"It seems to me that objectification of women is the intention here; the calendar is intended to show that there are ‘sexy’ or at least ‘attractive’ in the broadest politically correct sense, atheist women. It follows in the…"
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Andy replied to Laura's discussion 'Girls of Think Atheist Calendar 2010'
"With keen anticipation I clicked on the link, Seeking a curious picture of an atheist I think, Alas for I am not right, I cant see the Light, From the glare of the public does she shrink."
Dec 9, 2009
Carwyn Mundee replied to Andy's discussion 'Formulating a moral code from the ground up'
"This is going to be pretty long-winded, sorry I've never been very good with being concise. 1. I think it's biological, it's the same selfless instinct that drives ants, act for the 'greater good' and you aid the whole and…"
Dec 4, 2009
Carwyn Mundee replied to Andy's discussion 'Formulating a moral code from the ground up'
"In way we are, able to bring in support from evolution and other things, but do they explain the exitence of morality or do they present an actual moral code? If not then this discussion is still necessary."
Dec 4, 2009
Andy replied to Andy's discussion 'Formulating a moral code from the ground up'
"Ah yes the path most trodden, take ages reading the text of ages and then adopt one of existing and yet ultimately unsuccessful viewpoints laid down by giants that still are not tall enough to see over the hill and reach a conclusion that actually…"
Dec 4, 2009
Kirk Holden replied to Andy's discussion 'Formulating a moral code from the ground up'
"--> Freedom Evolves (Dennett, 2003) Gives a more focused or direct route to evolution of "the kind of free will we can have" and touches on the necessary evolution of morality from biological design of the kinds of brains that have…"
Dec 3, 2009
Andy replied to Andy's discussion 'Formulating a moral code from the ground up'
"So if I may summarise:- 1. There is a fundamental moral law (FML) “cause greater benefit than detriment to sentient life.” 2. We exist, (I think therefore I am). 3. After existing we want to be happy - Hedonism. 4. Obeying the FML makes…"
Dec 3, 2009
Carwyn Mundee replied to Andy's discussion 'Formulating a moral code from the ground up'
"Dam I can't edit it anymore..."
Dec 3, 2009
Carwyn Mundee replied to Andy's discussion 'Formulating a moral code from the ground up'
"I'm going to rattle on a bit as if I have the undeniable truth, but I don't know how else to put it. Through experience I've come to the conclusion that there is a basic moral law that everyone on some fundamental level is aware of,…"
Dec 3, 2009
Reggie replied to Andy's discussion 'Formulating a moral code from the ground up'
"Was it Dennett's book that I was reading that went into detail on this? Dawkins' The Selfish Gene."
Dec 2, 2009
Dave G replied to Andy's discussion 'Formulating a moral code from the ground up'
"Game Theory is dead on. Tit-For-Tat, Two-Tits-For-Tat, and other evolutionarily stable strategies. (Was it Dennett's book that I was reading that went into detail on this? Might be.)"
Dec 2, 2009
Reggie replied to Andy's discussion 'Formulating a moral code from the ground up'
"I'm not sure what modeling has been done in regards to constructing a moral code from scratch, but the past "experiment" I referred to, a bit tongue in cheek I admit, was the one we are living out right now. The parameters would not…"
Dec 2, 2009
Andy replied to Andy's discussion 'Formulating a moral code from the ground up'
"It would be interesting to ask her why she is like she is. There could be many reasons that are not genetic; a second child has an unusual place in a large family, not quite the first born, but not one of the many, experiencing a change in the…"
Dec 2, 2009
Andy replied to Andy's discussion 'Formulating a moral code from the ground up'
"So the Muslims are more correct about our state at birth, they believe we are basically born good. We all know the Christian view. More probably this is just Game Theory (as mentioned below) being learnt by evolution, as you say animals that have a…"
Dec 2, 2009
Andy replied to Andy's discussion 'Formulating a moral code from the ground up'
"Game Theory, yes indeed you are right it has been attempted but I have yet to find something very sophisticated in this respect. http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/game-ethics/ is an interesting starter article. This of course assumes that:- 1.…"
Dec 2, 2009
Dave G replied to Andy's discussion 'Formulating a moral code from the ground up'
"Not so much hardwired into us as much as having a strong genetic predisposition for it, I'd think."
Dec 2, 2009

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