"I hate going to church (I'm still forced to) and have always been, and I've always had doubts, but trusted my parents that they were right. I DID have an AHA moment, though, after watching Zeitgeist, and even though I now reject a lot of…"
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Would you 'convert' someone to Atheism if it meant destroying their moral framework?
Started this discussion. Last reply by H Oct 14, 2011. 65 Replies 0 Likes
I don't mean that they would literally go crazy and kill everyone, I mean like if they would lose their direction in life, stop being selfless etc. I know lots of really nice (obviously deluded)…Continue
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Ama Maduako replied to Kari Stills's discussion 'What is the worst thing that has ever happened to you while being religious?'"Being subjected to church EVERY sunday for 1 - 1 and a half hours. Made me feel like killing myself. Not a happy clappy one either.. a catholic one :l"
Monica Salcedo (Monicks) left a comment for Ama Maduako"Welcome to Think Atheist, Ama! It is great to have you here.
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Nicholas Kreider replied to Ama Maduako's discussion 'Would you 'convert' someone to Atheism if it meant destroying their moral framework?'"I wouldn't really "drill atheism into him" because that's not what atheism is all about. You don't want to force anyone to believe a certain thing because that's what atheism tries to get away from. If I…"
Rick replied to Ama Maduako's discussion 'Would you 'convert' someone to Atheism if it meant destroying their moral framework?'"Your question assumes that religion is the morality that binds us. The description you gave of your friend is very rare indeed… even of the most devout believers. To think that losing faith in a god would undo what appears to be an otherwise…"
Suzanne Olson-Hyde replied to Ama Maduako's discussion 'Would you 'convert' someone to Atheism if it meant destroying their moral framework?'"I agree with Dan - that is exactly my position - I just don't care what people do, just not in the street please. It's when they come knocking at my door, or are pushing laws in parliament, or getting into secular schools. That's when…"
David Brown replied to Ama Maduako's discussion 'Would you 'convert' someone to Atheism if it meant destroying their moral framework?'"1.Read my statement again and you will see I called you a pseudo-christian, no-one else.
2.Just what "realities of the 21st century" am I ignoring?
3. read my statement again (slower this time time) and explain how Christians are…"
Kyle Wilkins replied to Ama Maduako's discussion 'Would you 'convert' someone to Atheism if it meant destroying their moral framework?'"At age 14 I would let it go right now. If he has a strong set of beliefs it's because he has had them drilled into his head at home. I would keep debating him when it does come up, but remembering he truly believes what he is saying, so…"
Pope OoO (Out of Order) replied to Ama Maduako's discussion 'Would you 'convert' someone to Atheism if it meant destroying their moral framework?'"I have friends who seem to benefit from religion if only it helps them feel more positive about themselves. I even recommend church to a couple friends who need all the support they can get. At the same time, I discouraged them from being taken in…"
Dan Bezaire replied to Ama Maduako's discussion 'Would you 'convert' someone to Atheism if it meant destroying their moral framework?'"I would not try to "convert" anybody. My biggest beef with organized religions is that they can be too "on your face".
It doesn't matter to me if someone believes that the squirrel sitting on the brach over there is…"
anti_supernaturalist replied to Ama Maduako's discussion 'Would you 'convert' someone to Atheism if it meant destroying their moral framework?'"Atheists take on burdens that the “faithful” cannot bear:
Theists and atheists alike operate on an all-too-narrow bandwidth of knowledge and discipline. A wider channel can be acquired only by study, being challenged, and having to…"
Sassan K. replied to Ama Maduako's discussion 'Would you 'convert' someone to Atheism if it meant destroying their moral framework?'"
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Steve replied to Ama Maduako's discussion 'Would you 'convert' someone to Atheism if it meant destroying their moral framework?'"
There really is no one right way to live your life.
If you chose to be truthful, and genuinely believe this person to be your friend, then there is no need to convert anyone. Just be yourself. The hypocrisy encountered in everyday…"
Sassan K. replied to Ama Maduako's discussion 'Would you 'convert' someone to Atheism if it meant destroying their moral framework?'"lol @ Ayaan and I being pseudo-Christians"
KT replied to Ama Maduako's discussion 'Would you 'convert' someone to Atheism if it meant destroying their moral framework?'"Right, and that's been established. The problem is that you defined aggressiveness as NOT excluding sensitivity. Being politically correct IS being sensitive ie, acceptance and tolerance. So by your own admittance with your…"
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