"In my opinion basic morality comes from evolution and the psychology of group behavior and how it pertained to survival for basic human social groups.
Then through empathy, logic and the evolution of society as a whole humanity has been…"
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Explaining Atheist Morality to a Christian Family
Started this discussion. Last reply by Nick Gold Jun 4, 2011. 82 Replies 0 Likes
I recently "came out" as an Atheist to my Christian family. They responded well, though they asked a lot of questions about why I decided to leave the church and reject God. I explained my various…Continue
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deepthought42 replied to Aimee's discussion 'Explaining Atheist Morality to a Christian Family'"I think about the consequences of my actions. I do not want to harm others. You know, treating others the way you would like to be treated. Because life is an amazing thing (without religion) and we should make the most of it while we're here.…"
Mo Trauen replied to Aimee's discussion 'Explaining Atheist Morality to a Christian Family'"The objectivity of morality and evolution are similar but not precisely analogous. In both cases, there is objective evidence that they exist and objective evidence of their parameters. The details are the difference. There is…"
Mo Trauen replied to Aimee's discussion 'Explaining Atheist Morality to a Christian Family'"As you point out, the primary lesson to be drawn from U.S. prison statistics is that the assertion that religion leads to greater morality appears to be untrue unless and until someone can explain the apparent gross over-representation of Christians…"
Ganapati P replied to Aimee's discussion 'Explaining Atheist Morality to a Christian Family'"The "Good Atheist Arguments" are extremely immature and highly emotional with little logic or reason.
For examplle in the first link the person states that he/she values peace and freedom for everyone (within limits necessary for…"
Ganapati P replied to Aimee's discussion 'Explaining Atheist Morality to a Christian Family'"William C. Walker,
Religious immoral people (in prisons or not) definitely prove that religion is not a deterrant against immorality. However the counter claim is rather funny. You are assuming that people can't live with harming others…"
Ganapati P replied to Aimee's discussion 'Explaining Atheist Morality to a Christian Family'"Mo Traven
It was quite interesting to know how reliable the US "justice" system is! Just another reason why the US prison statistics shouldn't enter a discussion that is supposed to involve critical thinking."
Ganapati P replied to Aimee's discussion 'Explaining Atheist Morality to a Christian Family'"You explicitly stated earlier that morality is objective like evolution is objective. If somewhere along the line you changed your position, I missed it until now.
Morality is not about what 'is', but what 'ought to be'.…"
William C. Walker replied to Aimee's discussion 'Explaining Atheist Morality to a Christian Family'"Beautiful ! Succinct & effective. And the golden rule, or variations of it existed all over the world for millenia before the late J.C."
William C. Walker replied to Aimee's discussion 'Explaining Atheist Morality to a Christian Family'"It is quite possible that the awesome disparity between Xians & Atheists in our prisons is due to the higher intelligence of the Atheists. But this wouldn't BEGIN to explain why so many millions of Xians are in prison. They are there…"
Mo Trauen replied to Aimee's discussion 'Explaining Atheist Morality to a Christian Family'"Ganapati said:
"As I already mentioned, if morality as you mentioned is objective, so is immorality, religion or no religion. It too can be observed.
What exactly is that supposed to prove?"
Your position…"
Jon Heim replied to Aimee's discussion 'Explaining Atheist Morality to a Christian Family'""You Can't Have Morality Without God"As an Atheist, I am constantly hearing from Christians that morality would not exist without the word of God instructing us on how to live our lives. Though I’ve found many things in the…"
Jon Heim replied to Aimee's discussion 'Explaining Atheist Morality to a Christian Family'"everyone's already beat me too it, but show her that morality that comes sctrickly from the bible is flawed and incomplete. ask her were she gets the rest of her morality from, and bingo..that's where your's comes…"
Mo Trauen replied to Aimee's discussion 'Explaining Atheist Morality to a Christian Family'"There is an offsetting consideration you should take into account. Our police and judges are almost uniformly (no pun intended) theists, and they discriminate--often quite openly--in favor of those who share their religious convictions (again,…"
Ganapati P replied to Aimee's discussion 'Explaining Atheist Morality to a Christian Family'"When you quote US prison statistics in support of atheist morality, you are really reaching.
Given the apparent bias against those who call themselves atheists in the general population, I am quite surprised anyone indicted of serious…"
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- General logic forced me to take a step back and re-evaluate everything I had been told growing up. Once I began to think for myself, and realize I had the choice to make a concious decision on whether I believed in God/ Jesus/ Holy Spirit, ect. I just couldn't reconcile myself with the idea of a live God. I respect other's, however misguided, right to believe in what they want but i couldn't lie to them or myself anymore.
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- At 12:54pm on April 7, 2011,
andrew j van der veen said…
Your parents do not know better and are not open minded enough to start a discussion? Let it simmer and meanwhile WAY to go girl!
We can let the petty little discussions slide, right? silly parents... :)
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