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Comment by kOrsan on August 12, 2012 at 1:18am

There's just one kind of abortion: a good one. And I don't get what there even is to argue about a woman's right to abort. That's like saying "Do men have a right to bowel movement?" Fuck off and leave em alone already people.

Comment by Geaux Ghoti on August 17, 2012 at 9:19am

A friend of mine and I were debating abortion a few weeks ago. He's a Christian and, while he does not think the way proposed in the pic above, he is definitely against abortion. My girlfriend walked in and asked him, "If your god does not want us to have abortions, then why does he allow babies to be aborted?" To which my friend replied, "Because god gave us free will. It is his perfect will that we should CHOOSE to do what is right." She asked, "If his perfect will is that we should CHOOSE, why don't you let us choose?"


He had nothing to say...

Comment by michelliberty on August 22, 2012 at 9:25am

Well, unseen , in fact the book of bullshit called the bible  is a collection of writings, and the earliest ones were set down nearly 3500 years ago, not 2000 years ago ,and when the roman pagan emperor  Constantine got superstition (religion) and  had the bible as we know it  put together this was done in  the 14 century again not 2000 years ago .

And as for abortion , I'm all for a woman's free choice over there own  body ,  but I'm  am  not  for late term abortions or abortions after  the first  trimester , i consider the fetus a child  by this time unless the woman's life is in danger .

Comment by Dienekes on September 17, 2012 at 9:42pm

@Unseen - "I grew up in Christendom and never once did I hear anyone enunciate anything like that."

Of course not.  Xians are far to self-righteous to actually admit to being misogynistic. Just because they joke (usually halfheartedly) about "the woman's place is in the kitchen", "that's 'woman's' work", "the man is the 'lord' of the manor".  There is no need to these delusional hypocrites to actually actually proclaim that men are superior to women and should control them, it is expected in these communities and households.  It's all very subtle, but it is there in every xian church and household that I have ever has the misfortune of being involved in.

Comment by Dienekes on September 17, 2012 at 9:49pm

@Unseen - "

@archaeopteryx


I am certainly no misogynist, as any woman with whom I have ever come in contact could tell you

Interesting that you used "could" (might be able to) instead of "would" (could be relied upon to). Whence the doubt?"

Still nitpicking, twisting, and taking quotes out of context, just to be argumentative, I see.  Must be a very satisfying hobby for you. :-)

Comment by Dienekes on September 17, 2012 at 10:01pm

@michelliberty - I have to say that your statement is almost as bad as the religiots.  How many women do you really think would use abortion after the first trimester as a method of birth control?  How big of a "problem" do you really think this is?  Do you really have such a low regard for women that you think they are emotionless, callused animals that they have no feeling for the fetus growing in them? Do you have absolutely no understanding of the human procreation process?  It is truly amazing that people actually think that we need MORE laws to control people's lives "just in case they do something you don't agree with".  It really is a sign of a person's pathetic desire to control other people's lives.

Comment by Dienekes on September 17, 2012 at 10:35pm

@archaeopteryx - Watch out.  He'll be accusing us of conspiring against him again.  LOL

Comment by Unseen on September 17, 2012 at 11:20pm

@Keith Pinster

@Unseen "I grew up in Christendom and never once did I hear anyone enunciate anything like that."

Of course not.  Xians are far to self-righteous to actually admit to being misogynistic. Just because they joke (usually halfheartedly) about "the woman's place is in the kitchen", "that's 'woman's' work", "the man is the 'lord' of the manor".  There is no need to these delusional hypocrites to actually actually proclaim that men are superior to women and should control them, it is expected in these communities and households.  It's all very subtle, but it is there in every xian church and household that I have ever has the misfortune of being involved in.

I think you're confusing a culture which has rigid and wrong concepts about sex roles with hatred of women. Misogyny is hatred of women. Hatred is a strong word. It's well beyond mere disdain and even further beyond being dismissive of women. Further, most of the Christian women I knew seemed happy with their role. You seem to be saying that these women were idiots, blind to the misogyny around them.

I'm not buying it.

I'm sure there are Christian misogynists. I'm equally sure there are atheist misogynists. All I said is that I never experienced anything in my experience as a Christian (Episcopal Church) that even MIGHT POSSIBLY have amounted to misogyny.

If your experience was otherwise, I don't know. However, when you talk about them being far too self-righteous to actually admit to their misogyny, it kind of hints that you haven't had much experience with Christians, or not with a broad sample of Christians.

Your phraseology indicates that the misogyny isn't unconscious, isn't the result of brainwashing, but is rather some sort of unspoken "boys against girls" conspiracy of some sort. That's nonsense.

Comment by Atwas911 on August 14, 2013 at 2:46am

of course... an aborted child is one less that is able to be thrown under the treads of this countries war machine when political greed and special interest meets murder proportions and children are sent to slaughter the children of other nations while delusionally thinking its for some patriotic reason.

Comment by H3xx on August 14, 2013 at 10:56pm

Oh, Dale, you have really swallowed that old school feminist Andrea Dworkin horseshit hook, line, and sinker, haven't you? Most modern feminists don't even buy that line about Christians. I'm an atheist but I grew up in Christendom and never once did I hear anyone enunciate anything like that. Where do you think those thoughts are expessed? Somewhere in the back room after the women have been sent out? Get real! We have actual disputes with Christians without inventing some that don't pass the giggle test.

You didn't happen to grow up in Southern Baptist Christendom, did you? because I did, and that's exactly the sentiment they have. Pro Lifers are anti-women. They don't want wives, they want brood mares.

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