Women do not get raped because...

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Comment by Strega on November 8, 2012 at 5:03pm

Yes Unseen, good point - alcohol, drugs, any mind altering substance would have the effect of rendering either or both parties to make stupid decisions.  And it can seem that all women are accusing all men of being potential rapists, which is ludicrous.

I think the legal system enables the defense lawyers to try to put the blame onto the victim, and that although I can see court is necessary, it can appear that the victim has to suffer twice, once during the attack, and a second time during the attempt to allocate blame on them in defense of the alleged rapist.

Of course women should avoid risk-taking, such as hanging out in dark alleyways, and all the other suggestions.  It's kind of hard to know how to avoid a determined rapist however.  Hindsight seems to give us the clearest idea.

Comment by Unseen on November 8, 2012 at 5:17pm

I think the legal system enables the defense lawyers to try to put the blame onto the victim, and that although I can see court is necessary, it can appear that the victim has to suffer twice, once during the attack, and a second time during the attempt to allocate blame on them in defense of the alleged rapist.

But that's not unique to rape prosecutions. The shysters have a way of turning things around in any prosecution. In the case of a robbery, for example, the defense attorney may claim that the victim made the goods disappear in order to make an insurance claim.

Many people come away from court proceedings with a bad taste in their mouth.

Comment by Pope Beanie on November 8, 2012 at 10:17pm

The shysters have a way of turning things around in any prosecution.

True, which likely discourages prosecutions even when deserved. Meaning that the burden of proof is unfairly heavier on the women.

Comment by Unseen on November 8, 2012 at 10:39pm

@PP

I think "The burden of proof is on the accuser" is a bit of a sham. Something fairly easily gotten around. 

Comment by Pope Beanie on November 8, 2012 at 10:42pm

Legally, yeah. The point still is that women get the unfair end of it more often.

Comment by Unseen on November 8, 2012 at 11:34pm

As soon as the accuser's attorney presents his/her evidence, the burden shifts back to the accused. Unless the accuser's case is pretty much a waste of the court's time, in which case you can rest your case without a defense, you need to refute their evidence. I would all that a burden.

Comment by Pope Beanie on November 8, 2012 at 11:57pm

I know the laws and the ideal philosophy in a supposedly perfect system. I'm still arguing it's not fair to women, in the overall statistics.

Comment by Arcus on November 9, 2012 at 5:51am

"I'm still arguing it's not fair to women, in the overall statistics."

You mean, since 90-95% of all criminal charges and convictions are levied against men, there is somehow a bias against women in the courts..? 

Comment by Pope Beanie on November 9, 2012 at 1:37pm

You mean, since 90-95% of all criminal charges and convictions are levied against men, there is somehow a bias against women in the courts..?

Nope. Doesn't it strike you that your stats can support my argument? Is anyone here truly arguing that men aren't responsible for the overwhelming majority of crimes?

Comment by Arcus on November 9, 2012 at 1:51pm

Another way of looking at it is that the majority of actions which has been legislated as crimes are those who are primarily committed by men. I.e., while men are more prone to illegal physical abuse, women tend to commit more legal psychological abuse.

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