Women do not get raped because...

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Comment by Unseen on November 8, 2012 at 12:23pm

BTW, if anybody has a realistic solution to the rape problem, please set it forth here. Branding people making reasonable suggestions or even observations with "blaming the victim" clearly isn't a solution.

Comment by Unseen on November 8, 2012 at 1:54pm

You don't have any in your wardrobe already?

Comment by Unseen on November 8, 2012 at 2:33pm

"Yo mama wears combat boots."

Comment by Strega on November 8, 2012 at 3:01pm

You know, Arch, this could help you if you want to protect your arse from being chewed, too.

Comment by Unseen on November 8, 2012 at 4:33pm

I think the only aspect of being drunk that's a trigger is that it's a trigger to making stupid decisions like extending too much trust to someone one hardly knows. But as for the idea it might trigger a man to rape. I can't agree to that beyond saying, yes, it might trigger a rapist to rape, which is a different matter entirely. Most men, I believe, aren't even potential rapists of the monster kind. That is different from the guy who misjudges the degree of a female's impairment. And don't forget even she may deny being too drunk to have sex, but then may feel differently about it the next day. Is that really rape? I guess that's open to discussion. Don't forget that male judgment, too, is impaired by alcohol.

And let's not limit the discussion to alcohol. Drugs can have a similar effect.

Comment by Strega on November 8, 2012 at 5:03pm

Yes Unseen, good point - alcohol, drugs, any mind altering substance would have the effect of rendering either or both parties to make stupid decisions.  And it can seem that all women are accusing all men of being potential rapists, which is ludicrous.

I think the legal system enables the defense lawyers to try to put the blame onto the victim, and that although I can see court is necessary, it can appear that the victim has to suffer twice, once during the attack, and a second time during the attempt to allocate blame on them in defense of the alleged rapist.

Of course women should avoid risk-taking, such as hanging out in dark alleyways, and all the other suggestions.  It's kind of hard to know how to avoid a determined rapist however.  Hindsight seems to give us the clearest idea.

Comment by Unseen on November 8, 2012 at 5:17pm

I think the legal system enables the defense lawyers to try to put the blame onto the victim, and that although I can see court is necessary, it can appear that the victim has to suffer twice, once during the attack, and a second time during the attempt to allocate blame on them in defense of the alleged rapist.

But that's not unique to rape prosecutions. The shysters have a way of turning things around in any prosecution. In the case of a robbery, for example, the defense attorney may claim that the victim made the goods disappear in order to make an insurance claim.

Many people come away from court proceedings with a bad taste in their mouth.

Comment by Pope Beanie on November 8, 2012 at 10:17pm

The shysters have a way of turning things around in any prosecution.

True, which likely discourages prosecutions even when deserved. Meaning that the burden of proof is unfairly heavier on the women.

Comment by Unseen on November 8, 2012 at 10:39pm

@PP

I think "The burden of proof is on the accuser" is a bit of a sham. Something fairly easily gotten around. 

Comment by Pope Beanie on November 8, 2012 at 10:42pm

Legally, yeah. The point still is that women get the unfair end of it more often.

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