Comment by Simon Paynton on November 4, 2012 at 4:04pm

Sorry Kir, misunderstanding, also, logical error.  I respect everyone, and in particular I respect your mind.  Being a human being though, I can see how that was cryptic.  And yes, it is a massive complement. 

Comment by Simon Paynton on November 4, 2012 at 4:09pm

This debate rumbles on and on and on and on.  Basically the answer is, don't rape. 

Comment by Strega on November 4, 2012 at 4:25pm

Thanks for explaining, Kir.  I'm not really much good at quoting lines from films, I tend to forget a film after I've seen it.  Makes repeats less tedious, mind you.  I still like the idea of you being the atheistest atheist in atheistdom, though.  Oh, well.

Should I mention the lesbian rapes?  The ones that take place when guys try to rape them straight?  I believe it's called "Corrective rape"   Or perhaps I should leave that for another day.... (incidentally, I have it on good authority that it doesn't work)

Comment by Kir Komrik on November 4, 2012 at 5:18pm

@Simon, well you know Simon, I'm not really a human being myself. I'm a kitty cat who gets online when my human rommate is out. But I do have similar feelings. And thanks, that was very nice.

- kk

Comment by Kir Komrik on November 4, 2012 at 5:29pm

@Kirsten,

We kind of touched on this earlier in the thread but its worth elaborating if it will get us off the topic of pedophilia. I think the distinction was well made (by somebody) that while a man or a woman can make bad safety choices, it has nothing to do with blame or liability. If I leave my house unlocked and someone robs it, the robber is still the robber. So, a rapist is still a rapist, regardless of how a man or woman dresses or whatever other precautions they do or do not take, imo.

As for the digression, yea, I hear this complaint a lot and that is sad.

- kk

Comment by Kir Komrik on November 4, 2012 at 5:29pm

@Strega, no worries. Yea, the guy in that movie was a weatherman or something and he went to a party and tried to pick up a girl. The first thing he did was he kind of leaned over and whispered, "well, you know, I'm kind of a big deal". It was a riot. He was a total schmuck.

atheistest atheist in atheistdom

I like that, and it might be true. I'm the anti-poser, which is why posers are scared to talk to me ;-)

I believe it's called Corrective rape

omg, that's horrible. Yea, I'd bet it doesn't work at all. But it sure is hateful.

- kk

Comment by Kir Komrik on November 4, 2012 at 5:33pm

@Simon, I hate to do this to you, but in this instance "complement" is spelled, "compliment", just so you know.

- kk

Comment by Unseen on November 4, 2012 at 5:49pm

@Kirsten Krooss

His statement made it seem to me that, basically, women should know better than to wear revealing clothing because they affect men sexually and that will cause them to be raped.

Not just women, but men have to assess risks and ask accordingly. I don't go out without locking my door whereas in a perfect world without burglars I shouldn't have to. I don't wear my KKK Halloween outfit in densely black areas, even though I know most blacks wouldn't attack me because you never know: one might. 

Provocative clothing won't prompt normal men to rape her, but it MIGHT provoke a rapist to rape her. 

Comment by Simon Paynton on November 4, 2012 at 5:56pm

Kir - I stand corricted. 

Comment by Unseen on November 4, 2012 at 6:02pm

@Simon Paynton

This debate rumbles on and on and on and on. Basically the answer is, don't rape.

Oh, gee, if it's really that simple we need to put up billboards across the country:

Don't steal cars.
Don't rob banks.
Don't burglarize homes.
Don't beat your wife.
Don't cheat on your taxes.
Don't (etc.)

I wonder why nobody thought of this wonderful solution before?

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