Women do not get raped because...

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Comment by Sarah Emmaly Burgett on April 8, 2011 at 2:10pm

very good... very true.

Comment by Jayson Dread on April 11, 2011 at 10:20am

hmmm,  I dont know about this..

I feel pretty provoked when I see an attractive female wearing anything more flattering than a bed sheet. I think that islam got it right with the burqa.

If women dressed like a ninja, men might be too afraid to rape them! ;)

Comment by Alan Black on September 22, 2012 at 4:52pm

But it is considered rape if a woman has consensual sex while intoxicated.  So how is that fair?  And, considering women have no regard for how the way they dress/present themselves as highly sexual beings affects the men around them, I'd be wary of claiming they have zero fault in the matter.

Comment by kris feenstra on September 22, 2012 at 6:54pm

"But it is considered rape if a woman has consensual sex while intoxicated."

No.  I highly doubt that is what the sign is implying.

"And, considering women have no regard for how the way they dress/present themselves as highly sexual beings affects the men around them, I'd be wary of claiming they have zero fault in the matter."

That's a bit like saying people who wear expensive clothes are asking to get mugged, or men who dress flamboyantly are partially at fault for getting fag bashed.  While it is true that certain manners of dress may make someone stand out as a target for certain crimes, I find it very difficult to suggest that this makes them in any way at fault for someone else's criminal activity.

Comment by onyango makagutu on September 23, 2012 at 1:42am

I think if a person says they would rape because the woman is dressed in a provocative manner is an indictment on the rapist not the victim. Not very long ago, people went around with the barest clothing and there are no recorded incidences of rape. A rapist will be a rapist whether the victim is in jeans pants, walking naked, or wearing a sari!

Comment by Judith van der Roos on September 23, 2012 at 7:43am
Alan black, have you considered going into the priesthood or a career on Faux Fox News, perhaps politics in America. What is your view on all those prison rapes Alan, do you think they happen because orange jump overalls make the butts of male inmates just look soooooooooo sexy - doubtless the inmates only have the,selves to blame there as well ?
Comment by SteveInCO on September 23, 2012 at 8:10am

Rape is not sex; it is violence.

I agree with the spirit of this comment, but disagree with it on technical grounds.  Rape is both. 

But the fact that it IS violent, and that the sex is not consensual, is far more important.

Comment by Michael on September 23, 2012 at 11:07am

Could someone being intoxicated lead them to be raped? Yes, if it made them more vulnerable to an attack. Could dressing provocatively? I suppose greater attention might be drawn, thus leading to attack, but from what I've read a lot of sexual predators seek out victims anyway. Recklessness is possible, depending on what it was. Does any of this mean that if the person victimized were intoxicated, dressed provocatively, behaved recklessly, etc. they were to blame? No. Does it diminish the guilty of their attacker? No. Does this poster express more than a tautology? Also no. By way of analogy, it does not help prevent murder by saying "People are murdered because murderers murder." One does not have to blame the murder victim for their to be proposals that may diminish their chance of being murdered. Nor is their murderer any the less to blame if they are murdered. 

Comment by Dustin on September 23, 2012 at 2:25pm

I don't accept that a 'victim' must always be 0% to blame for the actions of the perpetrator.  For instance, if I walked into a crowd of violent and protesting muslims with a sign that shows Mo with a bomb on his turbin and I get injured or killed - Who in their right minds would say that I was 0% to blame for the actions of the muslims.  Of course I was also to blame.  The fact of the matter is the muslims had an intolerance for that sort of a depiction of Mo and I knew well enough I was putting myself in danger.  

To say that I was killed or injured because someone killed me or injured me - to me - sounds ludicrous.  

Also I know this isn't at all the circumstance that most rapes occur in - such as a woman sexually flaunting herself in front of a man that she isn't familiar with and doesn't know his history or his personality and then claiming 'I've been raped' - But I can't for the life of me see how each and every time the 'victim' of the rape can be claimed to be 0% at fault for it.  

Comment by kris feenstra on September 23, 2012 at 4:29pm

Who in their right minds would say that I was 0% to blame for the actions of the muslims.

You are to blame for your actions, not theirs, unless you were exerting some form of body or mind control.  At the end of the incident, we may all look back and judge who bore what responsibility for the overall situation, but ultimately every individual bears responsibility for their own actions.

Were your actions advisable in that hypothetical scenario?  No, but that doesn't create justification for the violent response.

When it comes to rape, no matter how poorly a person behaves, can you think of a single, solitary reason that justifies or provokes you into raping them?  I honestly cannot, and if I could, I would hope that I could get help with whatever has gone off inside my head.  Perhaps the way someone behaves or dresses does make them more likely to be a target, but it simply does not explain why the rapist was motivated to rape in the first place.  That is on the perpetrator, not the victim.

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