Comment by archaeopteryx on October 13, 2012 at 1:32am

Though dumb as dirt (what does THAT say about Harvard graduates?) even "W" wasn't THAT stupid --!

Comment by James Cox on April 22, 2013 at 6:31pm

I would rather have 'Mutually Assured Reasonable Happiness'.

Comment by Unseen on April 22, 2013 at 6:37pm


Why is it that when people argue that the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were necessary, they never bother to ask whether the entire war was necessary in the first place? Had the Japanese stayed home and conducted tea ceremonies and Zen meditation rather than invading China, New Guinea, The Philippines, and elsewhere, and had they not engaged in the various well-documented war crimes against both civilians and prisoners of war—not to mention the attack on Pearl Harbor—there would never have been a Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Would there?

Comment by angela kozma on April 22, 2013 at 6:51pm

@strega watched video. My running thought is yikes. I know it was written as a farce but yike. At least the prime minister thought about consequences of the red button.

Comment by archaeopteryx on April 22, 2013 at 7:00pm

Unseen, are you saying we should lower ourselves to the level of our enemies?

Comment by Unseen on April 22, 2013 at 7:15pm

Absolutely not. We bear some shame for how we handled the end of the war, they bear the BLAME for starting it.

Comment by archaeopteryx on April 22, 2013 at 8:01pm

I never said they didn't, just that dropping the bombs was unnecessary - we had already won the war and Japan was on it knees.

Comment by SteveInCO on April 22, 2013 at 9:05pm

It would likely have taken over a year and a million casualties on both sides to have invaded Japan.  And while we were bogged down in that mess, the Soviet Union might have absorbed Western Europe as well as Eastern Europe.

Comment by archaeopteryx on April 22, 2013 at 9:24pm

From what I've read - and admittedly, I don't have the sources at my fingertips - in private negotiations, the Japanese had already agreed to surrender. There were conditions to which the US weren't agreeable, and so the bombs were dropped, both to speed things along, and to send a message of warning to the world.

Comment by Unseen on April 22, 2013 at 10:00pm

A demonstration of the power of the nuclear weapons might have been arranged. Still, that's Monday morning quarterbacking. 

You're right, though. Ending the war with the nuclear attacks did save American lives, and at the end of a long and dreadful war, it would have been hard then to have told the American public that "We're going to sacrifice a lot more American lives in the interest of saving a lot of Japanese lives."

archaeoperyx, can you imagine how well that would have gone over?


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