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Comment by Unseen on April 22, 2013 at 10:00pm

A demonstration of the power of the nuclear weapons might have been arranged. Still, that's Monday morning quarterbacking. 

You're right, though. Ending the war with the nuclear attacks did save American lives, and at the end of a long and dreadful war, it would have been hard then to have told the American public that "We're going to sacrifice a lot more American lives in the interest of saving a lot of Japanese lives."

archaeoperyx, can you imagine how well that would have gone over?

Comment by Gary Bergeron on April 22, 2013 at 10:35pm

I appreciate all the opinions this photo has provoked and the fact that they were conveyed without name calling and such. Yahoo could take a lesson here! :)

Comment by Ray R. on April 22, 2013 at 11:11pm
The Japanese had lost the war, however , they did not agree to unconditional surrender , which was demanded by the U.S. . The Japanese offer to end the war was thus deemed unacceptable to the U.S. . They were asked numerous times to surrender unconditionally , they did not . It was therefore decided by President Truman to drop atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki , two cities which had been spared conventional bombing attacks expressly for nuclear attack . It is also apparent that with the vast amount of resources spent on the Manhattan Project , who would have doubted these devices would have been used ?
Comment by Suzanne Olson-Hyde on April 23, 2013 at 5:34am
If only they had stayed home and made tea - but they didn't.

The Japanese people, especially the men, were indoctrinated and brainwashed in the 'Honour of Japan', no different from religious fundamentalism.

Japanese: We can no longer direct the war with any hope of success. The only course left is for Japan's one hundred million people to sacrifice their lives by charging the enemy to make them lose the will to fight.'

Bombing of Chongqing, China from 18 February 1938 to 23 August 1943, A conservative estimate places the number of bombing runs at more than 5,000, with more than 11,500 bombs dropped. Tens of thousands of Chinese were killed.

The Americans were not yet involved in the war.

Japanese submarines in Sydney in 1939.

The bombing by the Japanese of Pearl Harbour December 7, 1941.

The bombing by the Japanese of Darwin, Australia on 19 February 1942.

Three Japanese submarines in Sydney Harbour 1942.

Vast majority of Australian men were fighting overseas, so there weren't enough people here to defend Australia.

The Japanese would not surrender, no matter what. The military and the Emperor did not care about it's own citizens.

Tokyo was fire bombed by the Americans in 1942, 97,000 men, women, children, killed and another 125,000 wounded. No matter, onward and upward.

In 1945, the Pacific War between the Empire of Japan and the Allies of World War II had entered its fourth year. World War II was not winding down. Instead, the fighting was being prosecuted with ever-increasing death. torture, rape, and destruction.. Of the 1.25 million battle casualties incurred by the United States in World War II, including both soldiers killed in action and wounded in action, nearly one million occurred in the twelve-month period from June 1944 to June 1945. December 1944 saw American battle casualties hit an all-time monthly high of 88,000 as a result of the German Ardennes Offensive.
Americans bombed Tokyo again in 1944 and lasted until 15 August 1945.
Still, would not surrender.
Always keep in mind the Japanese military did not care how many Japanese died, as long as they fought to the death.
In all, there were 2.3 million Japanese Army troops prepared to defend the Japanese home islands, another 4 million Army and Navy employees, and a civilian militia of 28 million men and women. Casualty predictions varied widely, but were extremely high. The Vice Chief of the Imperial Japanese Navy General Staff, Vice Admirial Takijiro Onishi, predicted up to 20 million Japanese deaths.
The Americans were alarmed by the Japanese build up. United States Secretary of War Henry L. Stinson was becoming more and more horrified about high American estimates of probable casualties to commission his own study by Quincy Wright and William Shockley. Wright and Shockley spoke with Colonels James McCormack and Dean Rusk, and examined casualty forecasts by Michael E. DeBakey and Gilbert Beebe. Wright and Shockley estimated the invading Allies would suffer between 1.7 and 4 million casualties in such a scenario, of whom between 400,000 and 800,000 would be dead, while Japanese casualties would have been around 5 to 10 million.

Even after the bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima they would not surrender.

The bombs also saved millions of Japanese lives. They would have been happily sacrificed to defend Japan.

The Japanese surrendered because of the Soviet threat to attack them.

In Emperor Hirohito's "Rescript to the soldiers and sailors" delivered on 17 August, he stressed the impact of the Soviet invasion and his decision to surrender, omitting any mention of the bombs.

In the meantime, Japan is whitewashing, toning down or deleting the atrocities the Japanese Military inflicted on the world, during the World War II in it's High School textbooks.

Anti-Japanese demonstrations were held in 2005 in China and South Korea to protest against the New History Textbook.
Comment by _Robert_ on April 23, 2013 at 7:25am
Comment by Unseen on April 23, 2013 at 11:06am

@Suzanne  War sure sucks doesn't it, especially when one of the parties is obsessed with fanatacism. The U.S. bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki had two important intentions (three if you count the idea of seeing which bomb worked better): 1) showing Japan what could happen to all of its major cities without risking one single allied soldier; 2) serving notice to the Soviet Union that it should not roll on into surrendered territories in a post-war territory grab.

The Soviet Union quieted down, but then decided that it, too, must have nuclear capability, and so the Cold War nuclear standoff began.

Comment by Suzanne Olson-Hyde on April 23, 2013 at 8:36pm
Japan believes it has apologized sufficiently for the excesses of its military for the rape of hundreds of thousands of girls, between the ages of 14 and 18, who were kidnapped.

Consecutive Japanese Prime Ministers claimed no concrete evidence had been found that proves girls were forcibly taken into sexual slavery for the use of their military.

The Japanese Prime Ministers says it was the girls choice, or that they were willingly recruited, to become 'comfort women'.

The South Korean Ambassador to the UN in Geneva is stepping up their demands that Japan face up to its sexual enslavement.

This was on 14th March, 2013.
Comment by Suzanne Olson-Hyde on May 25, 2013 at 1:13am

The dropping of bombs was not taken lightly - the Japanese would not give up.   
They are also changing history books, 'Do not mention the War'.

The following is what the Japanese did to the Chinese, buried them alive.

Japan's Air Self-Defense Force Toshio Tamogami was dismissed with a 60 million yen allowance due to an essay he published, arguing that Japan was not an aggressor during World War II, that the war brought prosperity to China, Taiwan and Korea, that the Imperial Japanese Army's conduct was not violent and that the Greater East Asia War is viewed in a positive way by many Asian countries and criticizing the war crimes trials which followed the war.

Japanese sailors in Manila raped, tortured, and killed thousands of Filipino civilians in what would become known as the Rape of Manila. This happened all over the Pacific.

Many prisoners in Japanese POW camps, were purposely infected with disease: cholera, typhoid, anthrax, plague, syphilis. Others were cut up while they were still alive to see what happened in the successive stages of hemorragic fever. Others had their blood siphoned off and replaced with horse blood. Many others were shot, burned with flame-throwers, blown up with explosives and left to develop gas gangrene, bombarded with lethal doses of X-rays, whirled to death in giant centrifuges, subjected to high pressure in sealed chambers until their eyes popped out of their sockets, electrocuted, dehydrated, frozen, and boiled alive.

The Americans bombed many Japanese cities, and the allies prepared for an invasion of Japan.

Germany surrendered on the 8th March, Japan would not.

The United States called for a surrender of Japan in the Potsdam Declaration on 26 July 1945, threatening Japan with "prompt and utter destruction". The Japanese government ignored this, and fought on...

American airmen dropped the bomb on Hiroshima on 6 August 1945, still would not surrender. So the bomb was dropped on Nagasaki on 9 August.

The Japanese would not surrender because they had too much honor. Their emperor would not accept defeat and their people would fight to the death.The Emperor had complete control over the people, and to them he was God.  It was assumed they would surrender after the bombing of Hiroshima, but no, they didn't care about the population, it was all about the 'HONOUR'.

Yes, I would have pressed the button -

Comment by SteveInCO on May 25, 2013 at 5:19pm

For once I am forced to agree, unequivocally and unconditionally, with Suzanne.  (Will wonders never cease.)  If ever a country asked for a nuking, it was Japan.  And worse, Germany asked for it too.

ONLY by completely and utterly defeating their regimes were we able to bring these countries into the civilized world.

Comment by Suzanne Olson-Hyde on May 26, 2013 at 3:47am

@Steve - Ha, ha - I know it has been a big learning curve - but you eventually got here - Bravo you :)


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