War on Syria

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Comment by James Cox on September 10, 2013 at 6:48pm

If Pacifists would really do their honest work, the few remaining fascists would be reduced to throughing rocks at each other. The rest of us enable fascists to obtain power, promote fear, exercise control via media, and access to the public purse!  

Comment by _Robert_ on September 10, 2013 at 7:25pm

The short-term US style leadership puts our government at a severe disadvantage when we noodle in lands and wars we do not understand. We do not have the stamina to see things through and our government changes hands before we can finish the job. Seventy percent of the violently killed in Iraq were civilians and 3 or 4 times that many died as a direct result of war. Two trillion dollars and over 4,000 US dead and 32,000 US wounded just to kill the guy we once supported. Geez, that's way better than  a 2 trillion dollar investment in solar power.


The United States supported the Taliban through its allies in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia between 1994 and 1996 because Washington viewed the Taliban as anti-Iranian, anti-Shia and pro-Western.[273] Washington furthermore hoped that the Taliban would support development planned by the U.S.-based oil company Unocal.[274] For example, it made no comment when the Taliban captured Herat in 1995, and expelled thousands of girls from schools;[275] the Taliban began killing unarmed civilians, targeting ethnic groups (primarily Hazaras), and restricting the rights of women.


The U.S. program of arming Iraq was facilitated by Donald Rumsfeld, who traveled to Baghdad to meet with Hussein in December 1983 and again in March 1984, as Reagan’s special Middle East envoy. He assured Hussein of U.S. support and its readiness to restore diplomatic relations, which Iraq had broken after the 1967 Arab-Israeli war.

Over the next eight years, the U.S. gave Iraq some $5 billion in economic aid and encouraged its allies to provide billions of dollars worth of arms. The British sold Iraq tanks, missile parts, and artillery; the French provided howitzers, Exocet missiles, and Mirage jet fighters; and the West Germans supplied technology used in Iraqi plants that reportedly produced nerve and mustard gas.

U.S. firms directly supplied Iraq with biological weapons, and the U.S. and its allies helped provide Iraq with chemical weapons

Comment by Gregg R Thomas on September 11, 2013 at 9:32am

@The Unseen One;

"Ever heard "That was then, this is now"?"

Nope, that was the first time I ever heard that one. :P

Comment by Gregg R Thomas on September 11, 2013 at 9:40am

I can be described as a lot of things (asshole comes to mind) but never a pacifist...I just know when to walk away from someone else's shitstorm.

I'm almost ready to get on my knees and pray for some actual leadership (I wonder if the FSM will answer my pleas)?

Comment by Warren on September 11, 2013 at 9:50am

When the DC admin looks like "Here I come to save the day! Mighty Mouse is on the way!". And they drag everyone else with them kicking and screaming.

Comment by Warren on September 11, 2013 at 10:13am

"I wish Christopher Hitchens were still alive so he could put all you pacifists and isolationists in your place"

The point is that if it's not our fight, why are we contributing to the fight? Isolationists? We are not under attack, our resources are to defend our country, not to go picking a international fight and being a cop.


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